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April 21st, 2008, 07:45 PM
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Greekus Urungus
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Originally Posted by Mort Divine
Far better than all of those.
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You must be fucking joking. In The Court of The Crimson King is the best prog album of all time. Tell me those whiners from Dredg can produce anything as brilliant of a song as "Epitaph"?
Pfffft. Hell no.
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Originally Posted by Satanstoenail
Amazingly I'm able to appreciate that Seinfeld is awesome and that Belligerent's car is bitchin without my head exploding.
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April 21st, 2008, 07:49 PM
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Commander Smooth
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In The Court of the Crimson King is not the best prog album of all time.
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Originally Posted by wandering_taco
Ozz. Put on a flannel shirt so you look like a beastly lumberjack, go over there now, break down the door and say "I'm here to fuck you". Boom. Door is back open, and you wiggle it in.
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This line will remain until Corrosion of Conformity (with Pepper) releases another album (4/15/08; amended 12/7/10)
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April 21st, 2008, 08:23 PM
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Greekus Urungus
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Well it's up there. What would you consider the best then?
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Originally Posted by Satanstoenail
Amazingly I'm able to appreciate that Seinfeld is awesome and that Belligerent's car is bitchin without my head exploding.
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April 21st, 2008, 08:35 PM
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#104 (permalink)
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Commander Smooth
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The Wall
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Originally Posted by wandering_taco
Ozz. Put on a flannel shirt so you look like a beastly lumberjack, go over there now, break down the door and say "I'm here to fuck you". Boom. Door is back open, and you wiggle it in.
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This line will remain until Corrosion of Conformity (with Pepper) releases another album (4/15/08; amended 12/7/10)
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April 21st, 2008, 08:48 PM
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Greekus Urungus
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I prefer Animals anyday but The Wall is good.
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Originally Posted by Satanstoenail
Amazingly I'm able to appreciate that Seinfeld is awesome and that Belligerent's car is bitchin without my head exploding.
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April 21st, 2008, 08:50 PM
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Winter is Coming
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I have to go with Ozzman because Floyd's my favorite band.
But I do think that Court of the Crimson King is an amazing song by King Crimson; it's a good album too.
For top prog, I'd also suggest:
Floyd- Meddle, Animals (ninja'd)
Genesis- Selling England By the Pound, Foxtrot, and The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway
Jethro Tull- Thick As a Brick, Passion Play, Minstrel in the Gallery, Aqualung
It's cool though to have an opinion towards something less popular or mentioned like Dredg. I understand where Mort's coming from. I always say with conviction that Leonard Cohen and Gordon Lightfoot are better than Dylan, and I'm usually met with scathing retaliation.
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Last edited by Einherjar86 : April 21st, 2008 at 08:53 PM.
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April 21st, 2008, 09:26 PM
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I'll take early Tull, Rushs Caress of Steel and Kansas Left Overature above most mentioned here, Floyd is great too, but some of that other stuff doesnt get heavy enough for me.
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April 21st, 2008, 10:40 PM
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#108 (permalink)
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Winter is Coming
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Forgot about Kansas.
Leftoverture and Point of Know Return were really good.
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April 22nd, 2008, 12:29 AM
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...And okra for all
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In the Court is not the greatest prog rock album of all time. Monchild is 12 minutes of monumental tedium. A good album, but not great.
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April 22nd, 2008, 12:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Einherjar86
Forgot about Kansas.
Leftoverture and Point of Know Return were really good.
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I've found Masque to be quite good as well, havent restocked Point of No Return yet |
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April 22nd, 2008, 03:13 PM
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Homura Akemi
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Originally Posted by Einherjar86
It's cool though to have an opinion towards something less popular or mentioned like Dredg. I understand where Mort's coming from. I always say with conviction that Leonard Cohen and Gordon Lightfoot are better than Dylan, and I'm usually met with scathing retaliation.
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Cohen is better than Dylan. Waits is better than them all though 
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if i was the first black president id bust out some rhymes for my speech. the guy's missed an opportunity that will never come around again.
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Originally Posted by Dodens
PS I bet HamburgerBoy calls his mother's meatloaf a Boston Market clone
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April 22nd, 2008, 03:49 PM
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All I ever saw of Gordon Lightfoot was one song at Live 8 and then I turned him off 'cause he sucked.  I'm pretty certain Bob Dylan was pure bullshitting with the majority of his lyrics, particularly his mid-60s work, but I find it unlikely that anyone on Earth has ever written better lyrics than It's Alright Ma. Neil Young's my guy though. If I still listened to that kind of stuff... which I haven't in a couple years, but I could go back to it someday... Leonard Cohen is pretty sweet though.
As for prog albums, In the Court of the Crimson King is totally mind blowing. Pink Floyd is unbeatable in basically ever way but a great many people do not consider them prog in the first place, so perhaps they're out of the running.
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April 22nd, 2008, 03:53 PM
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Ted Nugent is a better comedian than guitar player.
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April 22nd, 2008, 04:03 PM
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Wiener Blut
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I think some 90s rock sounds like an overreaction to the 80s and I REALLY REALLY hate music like James Blunt and everybody else with an acoustic who just comes across as fake and aggresively boring.
I LOVE queen.
I think a bit of flamboyance and fantasy lyrics is a good thing.
When you say 90s, or current rock I think about someone whining and strumming and I feel like I might lose the will to live if I have to listen to any of it.
I don't hate acoustic guitar I just hate 'sit around the camp fire and pretend to be able to play it' inspired music.
If it has a nice sound and isn't just urghh I don't know
'I love you baby' type lyrics it could be alright.
I hate how people get so stuck up about anything that's new and just listen to it to be cool then about a month later they laugh ig you mention it and say the band are gay.
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April 22nd, 2008, 05:05 PM
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Shyamalan'd
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mort Divine
Waits is better than them all though |
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April 22nd, 2008, 05:28 PM
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#116 (permalink)
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Commander Smooth
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Gordon Lightfoot > your face
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Originally Posted by wandering_taco
Ozz. Put on a flannel shirt so you look like a beastly lumberjack, go over there now, break down the door and say "I'm here to fuck you". Boom. Door is back open, and you wiggle it in.
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This line will remain until Corrosion of Conformity (with Pepper) releases another album (4/15/08; amended 12/7/10)
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April 22nd, 2008, 06:05 PM
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Winter is Coming
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Originally Posted by Mort Divine
Cohen is better than Dylan. Waits is better than them all though |
YES. Tom Waits is my favorite folk artist, above even Cohen and Lightfoot. I didn't mention him because those two are more similar to Dylan in the long run. Waits has so many intriguing and interesting songs that veer away from mainstream folk. He truly is the most haunting songwriter I think I've ever heard.
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Originally Posted by SouthernTrendkill
All I ever saw of Gordon Lightfoot was one song at Live 8 and then I turned him off 'cause he sucked. I'm pretty certain Bob Dylan was pure bullshitting with the majority of his lyrics, particularly his mid-60s work, but I find it unlikely that anyone on Earth has ever written better lyrics than It's Alright Ma. Neil Young's my guy though. If I still listened to that kind of stuff... which I haven't in a couple years, but I could go back to it someday... Leonard Cohen is pretty sweet though. |
Lightfoot's voice has gotten very bad these days. If you listen to his recordings from the 60s and 70s though, it's phenomenal.
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Originally Posted by The Ozzman
Gordon Lightfoot > your face
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True again my friend, true again.
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Our sacrifice is a knife at the throat of time,
But we shall cut it up some other day.
For what binds us to our grief
Binds the sculptor to his clay.
My Science Fiction blog, Roadside Picnic: http://roadsidepicnictalks.blogspot.com/
Most recent discussion: The Ghost in the Machine: Speculations on Consciousness (a Sequel)
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April 22nd, 2008, 06:31 PM
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Vih-mah-nuh or विमान
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Robert Plant is much better than Freddie Mercury.
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April 22nd, 2008, 07:21 PM
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Well duh
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April 22nd, 2008, 07:34 PM
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As reality would have it Freddy Mercury was a far better vocalist then Plant
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April 23rd, 2008, 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by The Ozzman
Gordon Lightfoot > your face
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Funny fact. His son went to my school...biggest failure ever.
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Originally Posted by Feathers & Flames
Robert Plant is much better than Freddie Mercury.
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fail.
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April 23rd, 2008, 11:08 AM
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Vih-mah-nuh or विमान
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Ugh...
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April 23rd, 2008, 01:26 PM
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Who cares.
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EPIC FAIL.
Mercury is god.
Well. Not god. He is a gay after all...
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April 23rd, 2008, 02:48 PM
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Wiener Blut
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Is?
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April 23rd, 2008, 03:10 PM
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Who cares.
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God's don't die.
They just ascend to an even more awesome level.
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