Controversial non-metal opinions

[Alter]

Bright Eyes-First Day Of My Life is totally fucking moving.

[no country for old wainds]

Originally Posted by Alter

Considering most metal lyrics are pointless...

wrong

Originally Posted by SouthernTrendkill

Yes, because metal artists never write about alienation, being worthless, or being an outcast of society. No good metal bands have ever sang about that kind of stuff.

even though this post is pretty much a strawman i'll ask you to name a good metal song about *being worthless*

[SouthernTrendkill]

Originally Posted by no country for old wainds

wrong



even though this post is pretty much a strawman i'll ask you to name a good metal song about *being worthless*

Uh.... Pantera? They've got plenty of songs about being an outcast that society deems worthless. Pantera takes more of a "fuck you douchebags for rejecting me, I am uberhard" stance, but Radiohead is taking a virtually identicle stance just from a slightly different perspective. In Creep they're using her rejection of him against her, guilt tripping her about it. It's a pretty harsh song if you ask me. Maybe other people see it differently, I don't know, but that's how I've seen it from day one. Examples? Living Through Me, Throes of Rejection, War Nerve/

Strawman, yeah right. Can't diffuse my argument so you ad hominem attack it. While Radiohead's genre is far away from what a lot of metalheads might like, the lyrical content certainly isn't lightyears away.

[Alter]

Originally Posted by no country for old wainds

even though this post is pretty much a strawman i'll ask you to name a good metal song about *being worthless*

100% of all suicidal black metal...maybe? I am not sure. Being suicidal is about self-respect right? Your a fucking idiot.

And yes, a large amount of metal lyrics and disjointed and pointless.

[v2kv]

Originally Posted by Alter

Considering most metal lyrics are pointless...

I wouldn't say that, but they're still not comparable to non-metal bands in that sense.

[Alter]

A majority of the bands half-ass there lyrics and it shows...

[no country for old wainds]

Originally Posted by SouthernTrendkill

Uh.... Pantera?

uh, try again

In Creep they're using her rejection of him against her, guilt tripping her about it.

which is pathetic

Strawman, yeah right. Can't diffuse my argument so you ad hominem attack it. While Radiohead's genre is far away from what a lot of metalheads might like, the lyrical content certainly isn't lightyears away.

creep is self-deprecating teen angst nonsense, sort of thing a 13 year old girl would write in her diary. there are infinitely more mature ways of writing about alienation and/or being outcast from society. there aren't more mature ways of singing about being worthless as far as i'm aware because that is inherently immature. the best metal is totally intolerant of self-loathing, whining and other such things, it tends to be completely self-affirming in fact.

100% of all suicidal black metal...maybe? I am not sure. Being suicidal is about self-respect right? Your a fucking idiot.

suicidal black metal sucks and most BMers would agree, but nice try

And yes, a large amount of metal lyrics and disjointed and pointless.

disjointed yes, badly written yes, generic yes, but pointless? rarely

[cherko]

Originally Posted by no country for old wainds

creep is self-deprecating teen angst nonsense, sort of thing a 13 year old girl would write in her diary. there are infinitely more mature ways of writing about alienation and/or being outcast from society. there aren't more mature ways of singing about being worthless as far as i'm aware because that is inherently immature. the best metal is totally intolerant of self-loathing, whining and other such things, it tends to be completely self-affirming in fact.

You must only listen to power metal then. And try to understand that angst is not restricted to teenagers alone.

[Aapep]

Even though I don't like Creep. Its lyrics are much better than most of that type.

[The Ozzman]

Are we talking about the Radiohead song?