rare prog from early 70s - Page 2

Black Winter Day · May 18th, 2004, 08:11 PM

can anyone tell me about Caravan or Soft Machine?

Land Of Grey And Pink · May 18th, 2004, 08:25 PM

Caravan and Soft Machine were both formed from the remains of The Wilde Flowers.

Soft machine is a great jazz prog band, their album "third" is absolutely essential, featuring 3 quite long songs of very interesting music with brass instruments and querky textures and changes.

Caravan, is one of my absolute favorite bands of the genre. They helped forge the "canterbury" sound...which was a sub genre describing the canterbury located prog bands of the early 70s. Typically these bands have a lot of jam sections, solos, funny and querky lyrics, mellow vocals, and tons of melody. One of my favorite sub genres of prog rock. Caravan themselves have at least 5 solid releases with this sound..most notably "In The Land Of Grey And Pink"...which im sure you recognize now

As well as "for girls who grow plump in the night" and "If i could do it all over again, id do it all over you" and "Waterloo Lily".

If you want some more great canterbury bands...check out "National Health", "Hatfield And The North", and of course "Camel".

Black Winter Day · May 19th, 2004, 08:53 AM

cool, thanks! and i have some camel, but i had no idea they were canterbury!

opethpainter · May 19th, 2004, 12:53 PM

in the land of grey and pink is one of my fave masterpieces

Land Of Grey And Pink · May 19th, 2004, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by opethpainter

in the land of grey and pink is one of my fave masterpieces

ditto. the vibe and feel of that album still changes my life everytime i listen to it. my favorite track is the 20 minute epic "nine feet underground"...so many good melodies and solos and jam sections.

Land Of Grey And Pink · May 19th, 2004, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Black Winter Day

cool, thanks! and i have some camel, but i had no idea they were canterbury!

well, they arent directly canterbury all together, but the sound they played often fit into that category, so more times than often they were referred to as a canterbury sounding band. its sort of like "is opeth melodic death metal or is opeth progressive death metal?"

Leper_/-\ffinity · May 20th, 2004, 11:19 PM

Hey Land of Grey And Pink, could you recommend me some good bands that sound something like Nektar?? Is Nektar Canterbury??? Or do you know any bands that play lots of ballad type of songs, kind of like Camel's Mystic Queen, Air Born, etc???? That would be great, thanks.

Land Of Grey And Pink · May 21st, 2004, 01:00 AM

Absolutely my good man...i live for this shit.

Nektar is NOT canterbury though, they are from germany and helped for the "Krautrock genre". Canterbury is referring only to the english (canterbury area) bands, such as the ones ive listed previously in this thread.

For more bands like Nektar...check out the following bands for starters:

Novalis (sung in german, but similar musically to nektar).
Triumvirat (this band became very popular in the USA and abroad as well...due to their english vocals despite being german and undeniably catchy melodies in the majority of their songs...ESSENTIAL! Grobschnitt is also a great band, very symphonic and melodic, with cool concepts on some albums.

id also check out "Focus"...theyre from denmark, but absolutely amazing all the same...and somewhat similar to the Nektar or "krautrock" sound.

If you like those, then i have some more extreme and experimental german krautrock bands for you to check out. just let me know if youre interested.

As for bands a lot like camel's mellower stuff....i have dozens of bands you could try, but heres some starters:

Dancer - Tales Of The Riverbank
Matching Mole - Self Titled
Fantasy - Paint A Picture
Cressida - Self Titled
T2 - itll all work out in boomland

All these bands do have harder songs, like camel...but many are mellow and chock full of melody like the "mystic queen" or "air born" examples you requested.

Hope you enjoy these, let me know if you need some help finding MP3s, ill see what i can do for ya!

Black Winter Day · May 21st, 2004, 06:10 PM

Nektar farkin' rules.

howsabout some help on these prog bands, oh enlightened one:
LINDH, PÄR AND BJÖRN JOHANSSON
KAIPA
STEVE HACKETT (solo) (i.e. is his stuff worth checking out?)

Demonspell · May 21st, 2004, 08:18 PM

Definitely, his first few solo albums, especially Voyage of the Acolyte and Spectral Mornings, should appeal to any Genesis fan and prog lover in general. And I'll second the part about Nektar being awesome.

Black Winter Day · May 21st, 2004, 08:24 PM

who the hell are YOU????

May 18th, 2004, 08:25 PM	#27 (permalink)
Land Of Grey And Pink Remember The Future Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: California Posts: 374	Caravan and Soft Machine were both formed from the remains of The Wilde Flowers. Soft machine is a great jazz prog band, their album "third" is absolutely essential, featuring 3 quite long songs of very interesting music with brass instruments and querky textures and changes. Caravan, is one of my absolute favorite bands of the genre. They helped forge the "canterbury" sound...which was a sub genre describing the canterbury located prog bands of the early 70s. Typically these bands have a lot of jam sections, solos, funny and querky lyrics, mellow vocals, and tons of melody. One of my favorite sub genres of prog rock. Caravan themselves have at least 5 solid releases with this sound..most notably "In The Land Of Grey And Pink"...which im sure you recognize now As well as "for girls who grow plump in the night" and "If i could do it all over again, id do it all over you" and "Waterloo Lily". If you want some more great canterbury bands...check out "National Health", "Hatfield And The North", and of course "Camel". __________________ If i was late, i had to leave to hear your wonderous stories.

May 20th, 2004, 11:19 PM	#32 (permalink)
Leper_/-\ffinity Child of The Grave $Leper_/-\ffinity's Avatar$ Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 1,123	Hey Land of Grey And Pink, could you recommend me some good bands that sound something like Nektar?? Is Nektar Canterbury??? Or do you know any bands that play lots of ballad type of songs, kind of like Camel's Mystic Queen, Air Born, etc???? That would be great, thanks. __________________
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May 21st, 2004, 01:00 AM	#33 (permalink)
Land Of Grey And Pink Remember The Future Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: California Posts: 374	Absolutely my good man...i live for this shit. Nektar is NOT canterbury though, they are from germany and helped for the "Krautrock genre". Canterbury is referring only to the english (canterbury area) bands, such as the ones ive listed previously in this thread. For more bands like Nektar...check out the following bands for starters: Novalis (sung in german, but similar musically to nektar). Triumvirat (this band became very popular in the USA and abroad as well...due to their english vocals despite being german and undeniably catchy melodies in the majority of their songs...ESSENTIAL! Grobschnitt is also a great band, very symphonic and melodic, with cool concepts on some albums. id also check out "Focus"...theyre from denmark, but absolutely amazing all the same...and somewhat similar to the Nektar or "krautrock" sound. If you like those, then i have some more extreme and experimental german krautrock bands for you to check out. just let me know if youre interested. As for bands a lot like camel's mellower stuff....i have dozens of bands you could try, but heres some starters: Dancer - Tales Of The Riverbank Matching Mole - Self Titled Fantasy - Paint A Picture Cressida - Self Titled T2 - itll all work out in boomland All these bands do have harder songs, like camel...but many are mellow and chock full of melody like the "mystic queen" or "air born" examples you requested. Hope you enjoy these, let me know if you need some help finding MP3s, ill see what i can do for ya! __________________ If i was late, i had to leave to hear your wonderous stories.

May 21st, 2004, 08:18 PM	#35 (permalink)
Demonspell cheating the polygraph Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: dead between the walls Posts: 15,515	Definitely, his first few solo albums, especially Voyage of the Acolyte and Spectral Mornings, should appeal to any Genesis fan and prog lover in general. And I'll second the part about Nektar being awesome. __________________ "There is a concern that the Internet could be used to commit crimes and that advanced encryption could disguise such activity. However, we do not provide the government with phone jacks outside our homes for unlimited wiretaps. Why, then, should we grant government the Orwellian capability to listen at will and in real time to our communications across the Web?"" -- JOHN ASHCROFT, as a U.S. senator, from his Aug. 12, 1997 op-ed piece in the Washington Times, "Welcoming Big Brother."

May 18th, 2004, 08:11 PM	#26 (permalink)
Black Winter Day #1 Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Nordland (of Carolina) Posts: 8,190	can anyone tell me about Caravan or Soft Machine?

May 19th, 2004, 08:53 AM	#28 (permalink)
Black Winter Day #1 Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Nordland (of Carolina) Posts: 8,190	cool, thanks! and i have some camel, but i had no idea they were canterbury!

May 19th, 2004, 12:53 PM	#29 (permalink)
opethpainter the psychedelic servant Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: italy Posts: 1,253	in the land of grey and pink is one of my fave masterpieces

May 21st, 2004, 06:10 PM	#34 (permalink)
Black Winter Day #1 Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Nordland (of Carolina) Posts: 8,190	Nektar farkin' rules. howsabout some help on these prog bands, oh enlightened one: LINDH, PÄR AND BJÖRN JOHANSSON KAIPA STEVE HACKETT (solo) (i.e. is his stuff worth checking out?)

May 21st, 2004, 08:24 PM	#36 (permalink)
Black Winter Day #1 Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Nordland (of Carolina) Posts: 8,190	who the hell are YOU????