The definitive TOOL thread

[Heckelgruber]

Originally Posted by Don Corleone

words of wisdom there, batmura. agreed.

+1

[Opethian666]

Sure, it requires plenty of intelligence to know wtf he is on about.

No it doesn't, it just takes some research, any fool can do research and talk about things most other people don't know about.

But you know what you realise once you've discovered it? It is pretty stupid shit anyway. Maynard is a spiritual whore, you just combines whatever he wants to - im sure greek mythology connects with crazed ramblings about the alien infiltration of earth in his head, but i don't think ive taken quite enough drugs to agree with him on that one.

Agreed.

Ill give them credit in that their gimmick is an interesting one. But i really do only see it as a gimmick.

Agreed.

Btw, their music is excellent. Not as good as Opeth obviously, but it is excellent. I just wish they wouldn't pretend to be intellectuals or something, since the statement is only correct when you put pseudo- in front of it. And anyone who is into spiritual/supernatural stuff can't be really intelligent anyhow.

[Heckelgruber]

A bit harsh maybe? Sure, they're kind of pretentious in a kind of "shop around for far out things to stitch together" kind of way, but they're hardly trying to be the metal equivalent of Derrida...

[Loeben]

Originally Posted by Opethian666

And anyone who is into spiritual/supernatural stuff can't be really intelligent anyhow.

Einstein was...

[Imladris]

how come people don't like Undertow? don't get it
I mean come on!Undertow is a great album,not the best but still!so many good songs on it !
Aenima would be my favourite and I have to say that it was very difficult to pick
I've also reached to the conclusion that Lateralus is the most intelligent one

[all_sins_undone]

Originally Posted by Imladris

how come people don't like Undertow? don't get it
I mean come on!Undertow is a great album,not the best but still!so many good songs on it !
Aenima would be my favourite and I have to say that it was very difficult to pick
I've also reached to the conclusion that Lateralus is the most intelligent one

Because Tool have evolved alot from the "raw" sound of Undertow and Opiate. Some people like Tool's new, more creative song structures as opposed to the "good old rock n' roll" structures adopted on Undertow and Opiate.

[Prowler121]

Undertow and Aenima

[Imladris]

Originally Posted by blimey

Because Tool have evolved alot from the "raw" sound of Undertow and Opiate. Some people like Tool's new, more creative song structures as opposed to the "good old rock n' roll" structures adopted on Undertow and Opiate.

yeah I know what you mean,but still,that doesn't make Undertow a bad album and I think we should appreciate those albums in their own way,I was just speaking in general,people seem to forget how much they've enjoyed Undertow back then

[derbeder]

i like undertow better than 10000 days. it's more fun to listen to.

[all_sins_undone]

Originally Posted by derbeder

i like undertow better than 10000 days. it's more fun to listen to.

If I want fun I'll go get drunk with my friends. I don't listen to music for "fun", I listen to it for enterntainment. It can be sad, depressing, uplifting, or whatever, as long as it's good.

[Dreadful]

I think you're forgetting that this is a 70s prog purist forum, so undertow is out of the question for being "good." People only like lateralus because mikael and peter put the album in their playlists.