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Old July 29th, 2008, 03:22 PM   #26 (permalink)
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ABC and CNN are biased, and that affects a right to free speech how exactly?
Well, as far as I'm concerned, one of the signs of fascism is a government- controlled media. Is a corporate-owned media with private interests any better than a government controlled one? I'm just saying, when this sort of thing happens, it's one less place for unbiased opinions to reside.

But you're right; to compare this to the kind of repression elsewhere in the world is in very poor taste. I'm just a big pessimist who wonders where the trend is headed.

But I for one welcome our new insect overlords.......
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Old July 29th, 2008, 03:28 PM   #27 (permalink)
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Well, as far as I'm concerned, one of the signs of fascism is a government- controlled media. Is a corporate-owned media with private interests any better than a government controlled one? I'm just saying, when this sort of thing happens, it's one less place for unbiased opinions to reside.

But I for one welcome our new insect overlords.......
You sound like someone who listens to that idiot who blathers on about the new world order and how the government staged 9-11. Yes, the major cable stations are run by corporations. Yes, that limits their output. No, that has nothing to do with free speech. If you want to spew anti-government paranoid propaganda like say, loose change, you're more than welcome to put it anywhere you can without fear of legal action (well, unless you infringe on copyright laws). The creator of that hasn't been "disappeared," he just gets laughed at by most of the country.

And stations are more than welcome to say "we don't want your shit on our station, since we own it." If you have a problem with tv stations being able to choose their own programming, I don't even know what to tell you.
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Old July 29th, 2008, 03:36 PM   #28 (permalink)
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And stations are more than welcome to say "we don't want your shit on our station, since we own it." If you have a problem with tv stations being able to choose their own programming, I don't even know what to tell you.
You better believe I have a problem with programs that are supposed to be reliable news sources repressing certain stories. Perhaps you should try living in China for awhile and then see what your opinion is?

And you're right, we have far less biased media here in the U.S., but I think you underestimate the corporate influence, and yes I do think it's a problem when ABC kills a story about Disney-owned sweatshops. I don't think anybody got shot though. Maybe chopped up and fed to the elephant from Operation Dumbo Drop.....
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Old July 29th, 2008, 04:15 PM   #29 (permalink)
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You guys, why are you arguing about this? We should be out preventing the New World Order conspiracy! 9/11 hoax! ZEITGEIST IS TOTALLY ACCURATE!
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Old July 29th, 2008, 04:21 PM   #30 (permalink)
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You guys, why are you arguing about this? We should be out preventing the New World Order conspiracy! 9/11 hoax! ZEITGEIST IS TOTALLY ACCURATE!
I'd love to help, but I'm actually one of the board members of the Trilateral Comission, so my hands are kinda tied.......
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Old July 29th, 2008, 05:04 PM   #31 (permalink)
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You better believe I have a problem with programs that are supposed to be reliable news sources repressing certain stories. Perhaps you should try living in China for awhile and then see what your opinion is?

And you're right, we have far less biased media here in the U.S., but I think you underestimate the corporate influence, and yes I do think it's a problem when ABC kills a story about Disney-owned sweatshops. I don't think anybody got shot though. Maybe chopped up and fed to the elephant from Operation Dumbo Drop.....
If people believe the news is unbiased, that's kind of their problem. If it's all privately owned/funded, they have no obligation to be "unbiased." The networks all bash each other and get bashed by people on all other forms of media, it's not like they have some immunity to "hate speech" because they control a few major news outlets. I do think that alternative channels like the BBC are much better news sources, but it's completely legal to watch the BBC in the US and there are plenty of ways to gain access to it if you want to.
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Old July 29th, 2008, 05:14 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Well, as far as I'm concerned, one of the signs of fascism is a government- controlled media.
Well, in Italy mr. Berlusconi, our prime minister, owns the three major broadcasting stations, a newspaper, a radio and he's the main actionist of a book editor. Not counting bank and so on.
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Old July 29th, 2008, 05:46 PM   #33 (permalink)
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