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[FrostGiant]

Haha, you teach math. Wait, what do I do again? That's right, nevermind.

[Novembers Paul]

"Study your math kids... Key to the universe!"

[TheNewChupe]

as a math major, that line made me giddy for about 1.64 seconds until i realized he was being sarcastic.

[Jasonic]

I did study my math!!!
I am a CPA and an MBA.

I think success for an underground metal band is a blessing and a curse. Look at how many fans both DragonForce and Opeth lost, simply by becoming more mainstream. Neither changed their sound at all. The problem is that there are many close minded metal fans that will never accept a band who has mainstream popularity or appeal.

The flipside though is you gain a lot of fans who are just jumping on the bandwagon for the current album, and will be onto the next trend by the time your next album comes out.

I think the internet has changed things a lot.
Anyone can find any band. No work in it at all.

Many of us older guys learned about bands we love today from tape trading demos and bootlegs, either through the mail or in person with other fans at shows, record conventions, etc. So, when a band like Metallica broke big, fans felt like they had more of a personal stake in it. It wasn't just like, "Hey, look at this band that plays fast metal who is on this big festival. Ozzy and Sharon like them so they must be good"!

I think you guys are doing it just right. You play shows, tours, and record all on your own terms. The End is a great label indeed.

[BloodSword]

No thoughts on the glorius vagina?? C, mon isn't being a wheel-chair gigolo a great job. Just trying to infuse some humour, however true. I agree "FUCK" society. I've been a non-conformist since, probably the day I was born. And I'm sure most have heard this; We are born out of a vagina, and as men, we spend the rest of our lives trying to get back in. And when done with devotion, it's a full-time job. I hope I haven't offended anyone, it's just that I feel more comfortable on the ND forum than any other on UltimateMetal, to lodge a post like this. Thanx goes out to Larry and Paul, and all the cool people on this board. HAILS!!!!!!!!!

[affinityband]

lol did opeth lose fans? all the fans ive known are still fans.

Dragonforce on the other hand...

[BalanceofPower]

Originally Posted by affinityband

lol did opeth lose fans? all the fans ive known are still fans.

Dragonforce on the other hand...

I thought Dragonforce only got fans after their guitar hero stunt, because I never heard anybody talk about that band before GH came out.

[Jasonic]

Originally Posted by BalanceofPower

I thought Dragonforce only got fans after their guitar hero stunt, because I never heard anybody talk about that band before GH came out.

Are you serious Vito?
DragonForce have been one of the most talked about bands in the power metal scene long before their Guitar Hero appearance.

For MANY years, they were most people's #1 "wishlist" band for Prog Power.
Of course, now with their mainstream popularity, most people in those circles will never admit to ever liking them.

Their original demo holds the record for the most downloads on the old site, MP3.COM.

I think Opeth lost a TON of fans.
I guess I should confirm "lost" from a biz perspective.
Sure, many of their old fans still like them, but they don't purchase their new CDs or go to see them live.
How many of you honestly went to see Opeth on their current tour?

[Tenekaas]

Originally Posted by Jasonic

I think Opeth lost a TON of fans.
I guess I should confirm "lost" from a biz perspective.
Sure, many of their old fans still like them, but they don't purchase their new CDs or go to see them live.
How many of you honestly went to see Opeth on their current tour?

Well I'm a fan since Damnation but I just didn't discover them before that. And I still like Opeth a lot, buy their new stuff and booked my ticket or the show in Holland....

I think that most fans who left Opeth are not open minded enough to exept change, but they also start to complain when a new album is a bit the same as the one before. And yes some fans just don't like it. But these things you'll always have. And their change wasn't even that radical like Ulver.

Right...jobs

[BalanceofPower]

Originally Posted by Jasonic

Are you serious Vito?
DragonForce have been one of the most talked about bands in the power metal scene long before their Guitar Hero appearance.

For MANY years, they were most people's #1 "wishlist" band for Prog Power.
Of course, now with their mainstream popularity, most people in those circles will never admit to ever liking them.

Their original demo holds the record for the most downloads on the old site, MP3.COM.

Wow I seriously had no idea man, that's jacked up lol. I bought Valley of the Damned before the guitar hero stuff, and was seriously not impressed at all. I don't even really like them, I think some of the stuff is cool, but I'd rather listen to an all instrumental video game metal band like Power Glove

[Jasonic]

Originally Posted by Tenekaas

Well I'm a fan since Damnation but I just didn't discover them before that. And I still like Opeth a lot, buy their new stuff and booked my ticket or the show in Holland....

I think that most fans who left Opeth are not open minded enough to exept change, but they also start to complain when a new album is a bit the same as the one before. And yes some fans just don't like it. But these things you'll always have. And their change wasn't even that radical like Ulver.

Right...jobs

Yeah, I just know a lot of older Opeth fans, myself included, just grew a bit tired of them. I still consider myself a fan, but have no interest in new material or ever seeing them live again. Not that I wouldn't EVER consider it, just wouldn't be a 100% definite. I have seen them live twice, and both times I left a bit disappointed. Just me though.

I have no issues with their sound at all. I have Ghost Reveries, and enjoy it alot. Just not as excited about it as I was when I purchased Blackwater Park.