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April 20th, 2006, 09:41 AM
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Owls own your soul!
Join Date: Sep 2005
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Savatage, TSO, Doctor Butcher, Chris Caffery, Jon Oliva's Pain
I just got into the Savatage family of bands a year ago. One of the best moves I ever made! Their work is pure genius. Jon Oliva reminds me of a mad evil genius who no insane asylum could ever hold. The albums Hall Of The Mountain King, Streets and Dead Winter Dead are all masterpieces.
And the side projects! Doctor Butcher simply rips! The Mountain King lets his sense of humor run wild in this band! Chris Caffery is an amazing guitar player and his last solo record Faces/God Damn War is wierd and wonderful. TSO needs no introduction...people who hate metal even love them. Jon Oliva's Pain's first record 'Tage Mahal is the best album Savatage never made. Oh...May Criss Oliva rest in peace.  Let's talk about the 'tage! 
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April 24th, 2006, 06:52 PM
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Valhalla
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I haven't really listened to a lot of these. I know some Savatage, and of course I know TSO's stuff, but the rest I've yet to really get into...
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April 25th, 2006, 09:38 AM
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Owls own your soul!
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Savatage is really an acquired taste. Took me a long time to come around. I mean, the first few records are kind of melodic thrash, then they move into the whole rock opera phase. But really, they are great musicians who do what they do and do it well.
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April 26th, 2006, 11:57 AM
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Division Guitarist
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I've been a huge fan for years, as has our singer Nick. I've probably seen them 30 times by now, and played with them at least three. (I can't remember if it's three or four. I should really write this stuff down.) The band's totally changed over the years, and of course no one could replace Criss, but I think some of their more recent output - "The Wake of Magellan", especially - ranks with their best early works. They're a flat-out awesome live band, too, and they're really concerned with the fans - they always stay late chatting and signing stuff for the fans...
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April 26th, 2006, 12:15 PM
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Owls own your soul!
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I hope that they decide to release another album soon. It's been 5 years since Poets & Madmen.
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May 11th, 2006, 08:43 AM
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I've been on a major Oliva high lately. Been blasting Jon Oliva's Pain and Savatage's Edge of Thorns album (the only one of theirs I have) lately.
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August 25th, 2006, 02:42 PM
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Squeakmaster 5000
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Torrington, CT
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Luckily I'm one of those people who continue to listen to those few bands they remember from birth (I'm only 17 and the couple bands I vividly remember between 0-3 are savatage and Queensryche
 ).As far as Chris Caffery goes.. he could really use a singer on his next solo album :P Like Jon Oliva! Grab Al Pitrelli... Then just pull in Jeff Plate... Pull Zak Stevens away from Circle II Circle for a bit and get him on backing vocals or lead in a few songs... Let's not forget John Middleton... (I'll admit, I usually forget bass players and had to look Savatage's up  (( )Really looks like a new Savatage album to me! One can dream, right? :/
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August 25th, 2006, 05:14 PM
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Odin's Court Guitar
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Stewartstown, PA
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Thanks to Weazel for waking up this thread! I've been a big Savatage fan since the late '80s and even saw them on the Hall of the Mountain King tour. I love TSO and Jon Oliva's Pain too. I just recently found the Dr. Butcher stuff and it sounds good, but I really haven't had the time to really check it out. With that said, I realized that there was a serious ommission in Matt's (Smowy Owl) original list of the "Savatage Family of Bands." Since Weazel mentioned them, it needs to be addressed.
 Circle II Circle!! Zach Stevens was the Savatage vocalist from Edge of Thorns up through The Wake of Magellan and has an awesome baritone voice! Much different from Oliva's. When he left Savatage he went and formed this band. Now check this out, Oliva and Caffery have a LOT of writing credit on the first C2C album (haven't looked at this for the 2nd and the 3rd is about to come out). Additionally, the band from the orginal C2C line-up is pretty much Jon Oliva's Pain now!  Very incestuous bunch!!I love the first C2C CD, the second was pretty good too. I have heard from sources that the 3rd is AWESOME! I will be finding out shortly myself. But if you like Savatage sound, RUN to the store and at least pick up Watching in Silence!! You won't be disappointed. If you really like Zach's voice then you be happy to find that he also appeared on Savatage's: Edge of Thorns, Handful of Rain, Dead Winter Dead (the album that gave birth to TSO), and The Wake of Magellan. Dead Winter Dead and Wake of Magellan are among my favorite 'Tage disks! |
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August 25th, 2006, 10:12 PM
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Autumnstone
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Hallways of Always
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a little bird told me that Jon Oliva's 2nd solo disc is going to be JAWDROPPING.
Savatage really needs get over this 'break' phase, or at least release TSO - Nightcastle. As much as I love the guys, the Christmas album thing is getting real old about now and they've run out of ideas for it... That said, they're the best holiday show in any town.
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August 28th, 2006, 11:59 PM
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Odin's Court Guitar
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