why was dokken not one of the biggest selling bands of the 80's?

[razoredge]

I dont know who talked who into what all I know is it was a way of the times. The big hair and spandex regardless of what kind of metal you played, except maybe thrash but I wouldnt be surprised to find photos of those guys in their youth garnering the hair of the times, or if you didnt play at all you might still have at least 50% "big hair" . The girly makeup was another thing... now your getting closer to glam. Im sure they all wore "stage makeup" for videos and photos, no different than actors do. You can go back into the early 70's and find guys with big fros or poofy hair, no different, in some cases it was natural, I had a buddy that wouldnt grow his hair long after the first time because he looked like he had a big red fro.... lol. I think many of these players today dye their hair black and iron it because I recall few of us that actually had "straight" hair let alone black. I had the jew curl thing going on and if I brushed it out after it dried or worst yet dryed it with a blow dryer... guess what... puff. People make too much of the "big hair" today, I've seen the damndest bands listed as "hair bands".... like WTF... long hair and ROCK has always gone hand in hand, whether you had it layered and blow dried it, let it do its own thing or iron it... BFD

today we're all half to nearly........ bald.......... lol

[Mxgonzo]

Originally Posted by Platinum Maze

Pun intended?

Glad someone caught that!

[ramses]

Oh, it's not about the hair. It's definitely the spandex, makeup, and in cases like Poison, and Motley Crue: ladies underwear. You're right, bands like Maiden, Queensryche, and Dokken weren't in it to "get laid", but were at times referred as hair metal, simply because they took care of their long hair. The record companies then, and some still do, only think of "in the now" moment, where they want to sell their bands as quickly as they can, and they'll convince those bands to do things that they really don't want to do. And then, when the "trend" dies out, they turn their backs....unless years later, there's a muched talked about "reunion". Then, those record companies appear again, as if out of nowhere.

[Old Man Metal]

Right Ramses, Even Pantera had a Glam Band phase.

[razoredge]

I still dont consider any of the bands glam unless they did the girly makeup thing, which I dont put the spandex or hair into, rock artist attire was always flamboyant, no! I did not ever nor would ever wear spandex, Ive been Mr Bluejeans since the early 70's and plan on dyin in em

Hey it was 80's WTFC, good times

We did a multi band gig back around 90 and this one band that got us involved was in their late teens, it was their creation. They seemed pretty cool when we went to audition, which they were. The guitar player asked me who my influences were and I was tongue tied and just said "I date back to Hendrix man theirs dozens of them"... he went on to say the (silly guy there) from Poison ? I didnt think much of it at the time. So we show up, play, other bands play, everything is "normal". Now its their turn to get set up and play, then they dissappear for 15 minutes and come flying out....... yep, you guessed it... all glammed up... we had a hard time maintaining our composure.... lol They rocked the place though.

like I said... Good Times

[ramses]

Originally Posted by Old Man Metal

Right Ramses, Even Pantera had a Glam Band phase.

Yeah, if you dig hard enough, Alice In Chains were a little glam-ish before their first album came out. Remember when Lynch's hair was blond on top, and dark on the bottom? That was unique, to say the least. I love his solo album, and the work he did with Tony Macalpine, and he played guitar on the Rush tribute album, on the song Anthem.

[Old Man Metal]

Ramses, which solo album you talking about? First Lynch Mob?

Yeah man, Layne Staley was in Sleeze. A glam band with Bassist Jim Sheppard from Sanctuary/Nevermore. Talk about six degrees of separation.

[ramses]

No, his solo album that came out in 93', called Sacred Groove. You must track it down! he has Ray Gillen, from Badlands guest vocal on a song, along with Glenn Hughes! About half of the album is instrumental, including Tierra Del Fuego, an awesome (well all the instrumentals are great) instrumental...acoustic, no less!

[Old Man Metal]

Thanks for the tip brother! If I can find a copy, I'll get it.

[mdmatt4ever]

Originally Posted by ramses

No, his solo album that came out in 93', called Sacred Groove. You must track it down! he has Ray Gillen, from Badlands guest vocal on a song, along with Glenn Hughes! About half of the album is instrumental, including Tierra Del Fuego, an awesome (well all the instrumentals are great) instrumental...acoustic, no less!

don't forget mandy lion roaring through a song on that album, that dude has a crazy voice