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Old August 9th, 2008, 09:49 PM   #201 (permalink)
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I don't like Zappa, enough said.
Figures that is was going to be a cop-out answer. You didn't even comment on the other stuff I said, which figures.

Do you like anything outside of metal?
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Old August 9th, 2008, 10:18 PM   #202 (permalink)
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Hearing all of the fly on the wall clips (although short) seem to indicate some sort of return to thrash, possibly a mix between thrash and Load sounding songs. Definitely looking forward to this album.
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Old August 10th, 2008, 12:06 AM   #203 (permalink)
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If you try to write to please a certain audience, the whole mantra behind what music actually is completely disappears. Music comes from the soul, not from an external audience that has absolutely no say in the final product, the writing process or in where to go to produce the record. It's fine to take critiques and certain advice from any audience you may have, but the end product comes (or should come) from you and no one else.
Yeah, I agree. The best art comes from the soul. However: Metallica already tried that when they wrote St. Anger and we all heard how that turned out.

I think a major element to great music is desperation and/or the need to prove something. Skid Row needed to prove they weren't like every other hair band and we got Slave. Metallica needed to prove there was life-after Cliff and we got Justice. Guns N Roses needed to prove they existed..... you see where this is going.
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Old August 10th, 2008, 12:33 AM   #204 (permalink)
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I think 'desperation' isn't a huge factor in music anymore.
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Old August 10th, 2008, 06:52 AM   #205 (permalink)
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New song debuted at Ozzfest called Cyanide. Some Youtube vids (there'll probably be more to come, these are the only two available at the moment). They're not of the whole song.

Shorter but better quality.

Longer but worse quality.

They also played the Mercyful Fate medley with King Diamond on vocals.
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Old August 10th, 2008, 12:06 PM   #206 (permalink)
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Now I am 90% sure I am buying this album
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Full song from metontour, better quality.
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Old August 10th, 2008, 02:23 PM   #208 (permalink)
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Figures that is was going to be a cop-out answer. You didn't even comment on the other stuff I said, which figures.

Do you like anything outside of metal?
Progressive rock and metal, and not all of it (a bit of jazz fusion but only because Tony MacAlpine plays in it). I like what I like, I don't care what people say, it's my music I pay for it so it better be what I like, don't care about names, critics or media fuzz.

Thanks to lord catfish for the videos, sadly considering they're a bootleg and all that jazz I don't find the song interesting or appealing per se. I will wait until it leaks the album and donwloading it, then I will make my decision, but considering I don't even like "Metallica" (the black album), I doubt anything from this album will make me buy it.


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Old August 10th, 2008, 03:30 PM   #209 (permalink)
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So you're saying that music shouldn't come from the soul and that it's completely driven by fan reaction?
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Old August 10th, 2008, 04:16 PM   #210 (permalink)
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So you're saying that music shouldn't come from the soul and that it's completely driven by fan reaction?
Just for the sake or argument (it's funny to discuss with you) I recall a musician (in metal) once said: when we play original music is to satisfy the fans, when we play covers is to satisfy ourselves.That was in the context on the interviewer asking them about playing covers or a covers album (not sure was long ago).

Anyway, music of course should come from the heart of the musician but there's something definitively wrong if you don't care about the fans' tastes and preferences. I stopped with many bands (Metallica, Iron Maiden, Judas Priest) because of that and I still following others because of the opposite, because they care about the fans (Motorhead, Saxon, Testament).
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