Worst Opeth Song Moment

Ermz · July 1st, 2002, 03:10 AM

Ok, so we've been through what our favourite parts are... but what are the parts in any Opeth songs that make you cringe?

For myself.. I don't really dislike any part, but something that really detracts from an atmosphere of a song, I feel, is the first 5 or so minutes of Black Rose Immortal... it's such a bad introduction to what's a beautiful song and it kept me from fully realising how good the song was until I actually played it through.

Don Corleone · July 1st, 2002, 03:42 AM

naaah, that beginning is cool, in my opinion.

the worst moment is -and im sure many will agree with me- that totally-out-of-place sound effect at the end of bleak.

Ermz · July 1st, 2002, 04:15 AM

That grainy sound, that flickers in and out? I think it's quite cool, I wish I could squeeze sounds like that outta my guitar

Don Corleone · July 1st, 2002, 04:29 AM

is that honestly coming from a guitar? anyway, it is very much out of place. very irrelevant and unnecessary, i guess.

Ermz · July 1st, 2002, 04:34 AM

Honestly I don't know, but it sounds like some strangely distorted guitar effect. I honestly think the start of BRI is more out of place... it just has basically no relevance to the rest of the song. It's like this harsh sounding harmony with Mikael growling... but then when it gets to 5 minutes, there's a really atmospheric acoustic section which basically leads you into the rest of the song... I don't mind the end of Bleak though coz it's on BWP and that album was very experimental.

MacMoney · July 1st, 2002, 05:24 AM

Most of Blackwater Park and Still Life.

Hondo · July 1st, 2002, 05:33 AM

That part in Bleak is just the last riff put through filtering or something. It struck me also, but I like it.

The beginning of BRI is my least favorite part of the song, probably. Actually, just that first riff. The rest of the song I love.

Stinkfist · July 1st, 2002, 05:36 AM

The last 5 minutes of BRI. It should have finished at 14.45.

Don Corleone · July 1st, 2002, 05:38 AM

hmmm could be.

Ermz · July 1st, 2002, 05:41 AM

nahh man, the last 5 minutes are awesome... the last minute of BRI has to be my favourite... when it just comes out of the atmospheric part and Mikael just holds the growl for about 18 seconds and it goes it that hypnotic riff that fades out of the song.

Hondo · July 1st, 2002, 05:42 AM

Actually, BRI has one of my favorite Opeth riffs ever in it. The 5:09 one. And the one after that. And the 7:35 one.. and 12:22.. I'm just listing them all at this point and I should stop.

Stinkfist · July 1st, 2002, 05:47 AM

It ends perfectly when he whispers "Black Rose Immortal". It just seems like they tried to drag the song on for too long.

redblueyes · July 1st, 2002, 05:59 AM

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Originally posted by Stinkfist
The last 5 minutes of BRI. It should have finished at 14.45.

Ivanohe · July 1st, 2002, 06:08 AM

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Originally posted by Moonlapse
That grainy sound, that flickers in and out? I think it's quite cool, I wish I could squeeze sounds like that outta my guitar

I think it's not guitar but Bass with distortion ....

Ermz · July 1st, 2002, 06:12 AM

Yeah I know what you're getting at Stinkfist... but that was basically for the whole song... it stops abruplty, then you have another acoustic section come in... it's not very structured.

Stinkfist · July 1st, 2002, 06:15 AM

Yeah, the song doesn't flow well enough. After about 4 minutes, there is a 7 second pause before the acoustic comes in and plays a riff which might as well be a new song.

Don Corleone · July 1st, 2002, 07:49 AM

ivanohe - are we talking about the same thing? that sound effect at the end of bleak could no way be coming from any kind of bass.

Ermz · July 1st, 2002, 07:51 AM

Yeah it's definately a processed take on the last part of the song.

Don Corleone · July 1st, 2002, 07:53 AM

but not bass. definitely not.

Verago · July 1st, 2002, 10:06 AM

that´s what Mikael said about this bleak thing in an interview...

How did you get that cool guitar sound at the end of “Bleak?”

I LOVE that. That’s Steven who came up with it. Basically I think we told him that we wanted the guitar to kind of fall to pieces. He just put that sound on it. We were laughing so hard because it’s so ugly. Then again it has a nice effect with the ugliest guitar sound on the album coming in contact with the next song “Harvest,” which opens up with a beautiful acoustic guitar.

I really dislike Twilight is my Robe 5:37 - 5:44. This short bridging from the acoustic part to the heavier doesn´t fit into the song in my opinion (but the rest of the song is great!).

Duvall · July 1st, 2002, 10:16 AM

I didn't like the ending of Bleak when I first heard it, but I do enjoy it whenever I actually pull BWP out of my collection and listen to it (somewhat infrequent compared to Orchid and MAYH)

Gregsmack · July 1st, 2002, 02:05 PM

I really dislike the ending of Serenity Painted Death where it suddenly just ends. The first time I heard it, it was on mp3. So I figured it was just a bad ripping job, or perhaps the song cut at that point, starting the next track with some kind of transition.

But then I bought the CD, and I realized it still ended so abruptly like that.

I heard that it was intentional, but I still hate it.

Thorns of Sorrow · July 1st, 2002, 02:47 PM

I agree what people are saying about BRI, I too think it shouldve ebded after the whisper...but I wish that acoustic part that comes after couldve been thrown into the beggining, the reason I cant listen to BRI anymore, other than Ive listned to it like 300 times, is beacuse of that lame riff in the beginning, by far Opeths mots unimaginative riff..I guess its ok if you like ur riffs thrashy unlike me. I like the ening of Bleak alot. Other than that, I cant really think of many weak moments.

Opethfan1980 · July 1st, 2002, 03:23 PM

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Originally posted by Gregsmack
I really dislike the ending of Serenity Painted Death where it suddenly just ends. The first time I heard it, it was on mp3. So I figured it was just a bad ripping job, or perhaps the song cut at that point, starting the next track with some kind of transition.

But then I bought the CD, and I realized it still ended so abruptly like that.

I heard that it was intentional, but I still hate it.

I wholeheartedly agree with that.

Poison Godmachine · July 1st, 2002, 03:53 PM

I heard that cut off on SPD was an accident.. Hmmm...
I don't like that riff under the "I witnessed your beauty" part of Nectar. Too dissonent and repetative. Part of what makes dissonence sound good is having it in with non-dissanent intervals and chords. That riff always makes me feel like someone put my head in a meat grinder. Maybe thats what they were going for....?

July 1st, 2002, 03:10 AM	#1 (permalink)
Ermz Mix Guideus Authoritus Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 19,942	Worst Opeth Song Moment Ok, so we've been through what our favourite parts are... but what are the parts in any Opeth songs that make you cringe? For myself.. I don't really dislike any part, but something that really detracts from an atmosphere of a song, I feel, is the first 5 or so minutes of Black Rose Immortal... it's such a bad introduction to what's a beautiful song and it kept me from fully realising how good the song was until I actually played it through. __________________

July 1st, 2002, 03:42 AM	#2 (permalink)
Don Corleone Emre Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Istanbul, Turkey Posts: 11,596	naaah, that beginning is cool, in my opinion. the worst moment is -and im sure many will agree with me- that totally-out-of-place sound effect at the end of bleak. __________________ http://www.myspace.com/emrekaracaoglu

July 1st, 2002, 04:15 AM	#3 (permalink)
Ermz Mix Guideus Authoritus Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 19,942	That grainy sound, that flickers in and out? I think it's quite cool, I wish I could squeeze sounds like that outta my guitar __________________

July 1st, 2002, 04:29 AM	#4 (permalink)
Don Corleone Emre Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Istanbul, Turkey Posts: 11,596	is that honestly coming from a guitar? anyway, it is very much out of place. very irrelevant and unnecessary, i guess. __________________ http://www.myspace.com/emrekaracaoglu

July 1st, 2002, 04:34 AM	#5 (permalink)
Ermz Mix Guideus Authoritus Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 19,942	Honestly I don't know, but it sounds like some strangely distorted guitar effect. I honestly think the start of BRI is more out of place... it just has basically no relevance to the rest of the song. It's like this harsh sounding harmony with Mikael growling... but then when it gets to 5 minutes, there's a really atmospheric acoustic section which basically leads you into the rest of the song... I don't mind the end of Bleak though coz it's on BWP and that album was very experimental. __________________

July 1st, 2002, 05:24 AM	#6 (permalink)
MacMoney Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 1,615	Most of Blackwater Park and Still Life. __________________ Scimitar means theist. Satanic hermites smite scimitars 'neath times. PERMUTE! http://www.students.oamk.fi/~majaju00/LLiiga/ Hate the sinner, love the sin.

July 1st, 2002, 05:33 AM	#7 (permalink)
Hondo ·.¸¸.teh.¸¸.· Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 1,128	That part in Bleak is just the last riff put through filtering or something. It struck me also, but I like it. The beginning of BRI is my least favorite part of the song, probably. Actually, just that first riff. The rest of the song I love. Last edited by Hondo : July 1st, 2002 at 05:37 AM.

July 1st, 2002, 05:36 AM	#8 (permalink)
Stinkfist ydthbfvsdg Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Dorset, UK Posts: 385	The last 5 minutes of BRI. It should have finished at 14.45. __________________ www.sonicdeath.co.uk

July 1st, 2002, 05:38 AM	#9 (permalink)
Don Corleone Emre Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Istanbul, Turkey Posts: 11,596	hmmm could be. __________________ http://www.myspace.com/emrekaracaoglu

July 1st, 2002, 05:41 AM	#10 (permalink)
Ermz Mix Guideus Authoritus Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 19,942	nahh man, the last 5 minutes are awesome... the last minute of BRI has to be my favourite... when it just comes out of the atmospheric part and Mikael just holds the growl for about 18 seconds and it goes it that hypnotic riff that fades out of the song. __________________

July 1st, 2002, 05:42 AM	#11 (permalink)
Hondo ·.¸¸.teh.¸¸.· Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 1,128	Actually, BRI has one of my favorite Opeth riffs ever in it. The 5:09 one. And the one after that. And the 7:35 one.. and 12:22.. I'm just listing them all at this point and I should stop.

July 1st, 2002, 05:47 AM	#12 (permalink)
Stinkfist ydthbfvsdg Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Dorset, UK Posts: 385	It ends perfectly when he whispers "Black Rose Immortal". It just seems like they tried to drag the song on for too long. __________________ www.sonicdeath.co.uk

July 1st, 2002, 06:12 AM	#15 (permalink)
Ermz Mix Guideus Authoritus Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 19,942	Yeah I know what you're getting at Stinkfist... but that was basically for the whole song... it stops abruplty, then you have another acoustic section come in... it's not very structured. __________________

July 1st, 2002, 06:15 AM	#16 (permalink)
Stinkfist ydthbfvsdg Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Dorset, UK Posts: 385	Yeah, the song doesn't flow well enough. After about 4 minutes, there is a 7 second pause before the acoustic comes in and plays a riff which might as well be a new song. __________________ www.sonicdeath.co.uk

July 1st, 2002, 07:49 AM	#17 (permalink)
Don Corleone Emre Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Istanbul, Turkey Posts: 11,596	ivanohe - are we talking about the same thing? that sound effect at the end of bleak could no way be coming from any kind of bass. __________________ http://www.myspace.com/emrekaracaoglu

July 1st, 2002, 07:51 AM	#18 (permalink)
Ermz Mix Guideus Authoritus Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 19,942	Yeah it's definately a processed take on the last part of the song. __________________

July 1st, 2002, 07:53 AM	#19 (permalink)
Don Corleone Emre Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Istanbul, Turkey Posts: 11,596	but not bass. definitely not. __________________ http://www.myspace.com/emrekaracaoglu

July 1st, 2002, 10:06 AM	#20 (permalink)
Verago Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 146	that´s what Mikael said about this bleak thing in an interview... How did you get that cool guitar sound at the end of “Bleak?” I LOVE that. That’s Steven who came up with it. Basically I think we told him that we wanted the guitar to kind of fall to pieces. He just put that sound on it. We were laughing so hard because it’s so ugly. Then again it has a nice effect with the ugliest guitar sound on the album coming in contact with the next song “Harvest,” which opens up with a beautiful acoustic guitar. I really dislike Twilight is my Robe 5:37 - 5:44. This short bridging from the acoustic part to the heavier doesn´t fit into the song in my opinion (but the rest of the song is great!). __________________ "Just one breath, and it's instant death, it's the Aerosol Grey Machine!"

July 1st, 2002, 10:16 AM	#21 (permalink)
Duvall Ia! Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,146	I didn't like the ending of Bleak when I first heard it, but I do enjoy it whenever I actually pull BWP out of my collection and listen to it (somewhat infrequent compared to Orchid and MAYH) __________________ Behold a nightmare pit that splashed with piping shapeless monsters. I packed them in the bay of my B-17.. Shoggoths Away!

July 1st, 2002, 02:05 PM	#22 (permalink)
Gregsmack Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Toronto, Ontario Posts: 142	I really dislike the ending of Serenity Painted Death where it suddenly just ends. The first time I heard it, it was on mp3. So I figured it was just a bad ripping job, or perhaps the song cut at that point, starting the next track with some kind of transition. But then I bought the CD, and I realized it still ended so abruptly like that. I heard that it was intentional, but I still hate it.

July 1st, 2002, 02:47 PM	#23 (permalink)
Thorns of Sorrow My pic is squished Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: New York City Posts: 5,287	I agree what people are saying about BRI, I too think it shouldve ebded after the whisper...but I wish that acoustic part that comes after couldve been thrown into the beggining, the reason I cant listen to BRI anymore, other than Ive listned to it like 300 times, is beacuse of that lame riff in the beginning, by far Opeths mots unimaginative riff..I guess its ok if you like ur riffs thrashy unlike me. I like the ening of Bleak alot. Other than that, I cant really think of many weak moments. __________________ I pity the man/woman who takes me seriously

July 1st, 2002, 03:53 PM	#25 (permalink)
Poison Godmachine Atheistic Existentialist Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Berklee College of Music Posts: 922	I heard that cut off on SPD was an accident.. Hmmm... I don't like that riff under the "I witnessed your beauty" part of Nectar. Too dissonent and repetative. Part of what makes dissonence sound good is having it in with non-dissanent intervals and chords. That riff always makes me feel like someone put my head in a meat grinder. Maybe thats what they were going for....? __________________ "It was me, peering through the looking-glass" Last edited by Poison Godmachine : July 1st, 2002 at 11:35 PM.

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