Best and Worst Arranged Opeth Songs

burntoast · June 3rd, 2009, 12:57 PM

What are you choices for Opeth's best and worst arranged songs? In other words, we're looking for exceptional flow and transition, as well as the "goodness of fit" of every riff or passage or musical idea.

I think "The Leper Affinity" is exceptionally arranged, but "Porcelain Heart" needed a hell of a lot more work.

pyr0rrzzz · June 3rd, 2009, 01:03 PM

Ghost of Perdition and The Lotus Eater

Porcelain Heart is too simple.

Dark Winterstorm · June 3rd, 2009, 01:09 PM

Best - Black Rose Immortal
Worst - Porcelain Heart

Hedon- · June 3rd, 2009, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Dark Winterstorm

Best - Black Rose Immortal

???

Alex78 · June 3rd, 2009, 01:22 PM

Best: Godheads Lament.

Hedon- · June 3rd, 2009, 01:27 PM

everyone's just gonna mention their favorite songs..

To rid you disease · June 3rd, 2009, 01:31 PM

best - ghost of perdition - flows like no other song

worst - black rose immortal - rofl

Sad Madrigal · June 3rd, 2009, 01:41 PM

Best - The Moor, Lepper Affinity, When, Baying Of The Hounds
Worst - lol

Dark Winterstorm · June 3rd, 2009, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Hedon-

???

Hm? You mean Black Rose Immortal is too long? Not for me. I like the way its arranged and I like every single riff.

NicholasDWolfwood · June 3rd, 2009, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Dark Winterstorm

Hm? You mean Black Rose Immortal is too long? Not for me. I like the way its arranged and I like every single riff.

except it's just that, a riff fest. riff, riff, riff, riff. there's no structure or flow to any of the parts, like most of orchid/mr.

best is probably ghost of perdition / masters apprentices. worst, definitely everything off of orchid/mr except tnatsw.

greasyboat · June 3rd, 2009, 01:52 PM

best: ghost of perdition, the leper affinity
worst: black rose immortal

porcelain heart isn't arranged all that bad, it's just that it blows

Dark Winterstorm · June 3rd, 2009, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by NicholasDWolfwood

except it's just that, a riff fest. riff, riff, riff, riff. there's no structure or flow to any of the parts, like most of orchid/mr.

Exactly. You are right, and that's why I like it

sotua · June 3rd, 2009, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by To rid you disease

best - ghost of perdition - flows like no other song

worst - black rose immortal - rofl

Agreed.

Ghost of Perdition is completely awesome.

I like Deliverance, too. Though the outtro is twice as long as it needed to be.

greasyboat · June 3rd, 2009, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Dark Winterstorm

Exactly. You are right, and that's why I like it

how fucking cute

FRUGiHOYi · June 3rd, 2009, 02:48 PM

Definitely Porcelain Heart is very badly arranged, but most of the badly arranged songs would be from their first few albums, I think.

As for well arranged songs, the first one that comes to mind is The Moor, but in general the newer songs are better arranged, aside from Watershed, which has some pretty bad arrangements IMHO (not just Porcelain Heart).

Dark Winterstorm · June 3rd, 2009, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by greasyboat

how fucking cute

I know.

hexwind · June 3rd, 2009, 03:13 PM

Bests-Hessian Peel.
Worst- Porcelain heart, it's a boring son imo

Hedon- · June 3rd, 2009, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Dark Winterstorm

Hm? You mean Black Rose Immortal is too long? Not for me. I like the way its arranged and I like every single riff.

no man i like it too but saying it has a flowing structure is ridiculous
its a pretty obvious choice getting "worst" on this thread, so seeing you wrote it as best was a surprise

i aint play this · June 3rd, 2009, 05:19 PM

sup Philno

Vega Skater · June 3rd, 2009, 06:14 PM

Gotta love Blackwater Park. Definitely not a traditional approach but man it's a monster.

Worst? Not a fan of Masters' Apprentices (not a fan of the abrupt outro), but hey that's just me.

ps- Black Rose Immortal may not have a smooth flow, but in some ways that is what makes it so beautiful. There are moments of silence where you can imagine yourself in solitude in the wilderness, amazing.

burntoast · June 3rd, 2009, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by i aint play this

sup Philno

+1

Fanica · June 3rd, 2009, 06:39 PM

Best = By the Pain I see in others, and don't you dare disagree.

i aint play this · June 3rd, 2009, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by burntoast

+1

Completely sure Greasyboat is him.

DisappearingSun412 · June 3rd, 2009, 09:54 PM

Worst = WREATH

That song could be awesome, but my GOD does he drag that shit out beyond any reason. Could've done more in variation with the intro riff and repetition as well.

And I've had to sit through this one 3 times live. I like it. Only, The half that isn't overly repetetive.

burntoast · June 3rd, 2009, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by DisappearingSun412

Worst = WREATH

"Wreath" is far more cohesive than "Black Rose Immortal" or most of Opeth's earlier tracks.

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burntoast Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 524	Best and Worst Arranged Opeth Songs What are you choices for Opeth's best and worst arranged songs? In other words, we're looking for exceptional flow and transition, as well as the "goodness of fit" of every riff or passage or musical idea. I think "The Leper Affinity" is exceptionally arranged, but "Porcelain Heart" needed a hell of a lot more work.

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pyr0rrzzz but still so precious... Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 539	Ghost of Perdition and The Lotus Eater Porcelain Heart is too simple. __________________

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FRUGiHOYi "Since 1981" Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Posts: 2,216	Definitely Porcelain Heart is very badly arranged, but most of the badly arranged songs would be from their first few albums, I think. As for well arranged songs, the first one that comes to mind is The Moor, but in general the newer songs are better arranged, aside from Watershed, which has some pretty bad arrangements IMHO (not just Porcelain Heart). __________________ http://shagohod.dmusic.com

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Dark Winterstorm Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 34	Best - Black Rose Immortal Worst - Porcelain Heart

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To rid you disease Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 587	best - ghost of perdition - flows like no other song worst - black rose immortal - rofl

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greasyboat Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 172	best: ghost of perdition, the leper affinity worst: black rose immortal porcelain heart isn't arranged all that bad, it's just that it blows

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hexwind Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Psychedelic Planet Posts: 3,660	Bests-Hessian Peel. Worst- Porcelain heart, it's a boring son imo __________________ I am just a spectator An advocate documenting the loss Fluttering with conceit This doesn't concern me yet Still far from the knell Opeth Forum Pabulum

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Vega Skater Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Sydney Posts: 565	Gotta love Blackwater Park. Definitely not a traditional approach but man it's a monster. Worst? Not a fan of Masters' Apprentices (not a fan of the abrupt outro), but hey that's just me. ps- Black Rose Immortal may not have a smooth flow, but in some ways that is what makes it so beautiful. There are moments of silence where you can imagine yourself in solitude in the wilderness, amazing. __________________ Don't lock your door or we'll come through your roof -top

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DisappearingSun412 Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 30	Worst = WREATH That song could be awesome, but my GOD does he drag that shit out beyond any reason. Could've done more in variation with the intro riff and repetition as well. And I've had to sit through this one 3 times live. I like it. Only, The half that isn't overly repetetive.