Watershed: Are you disapointed with it? - Page 2

rayden_ad · June 11th, 2008, 08:32 AM

I don't like the song structures from Procelain Heart or Hex Omega.
But the other songs are very unique.

hazemovic · June 11th, 2008, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Metalmaster

I'm not disappointed with the album as a whole, but the brutality vs softness ratio is very disappointing. I don't want Opeth to stop being a death metal band first, progressive rock/seventies rock band second.

There will never be another Orchid, Morningrise or My Arms, Your Hearse mister O.P. You have to listen to these albums, or maybe check out some of the good Opeth wannabes, such as In Mourning.

Kirkfjell · June 11th, 2008, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Metalmaster

I'm not disappointed with the album as a whole, but the brutality vs softness ratio is very disappointing. I don't want Opeth to stop being a death metal band first, progressive rock/seventies rock band second.

Couldn't agree more. There are loads of great rock/progressive bands, but no one can deliver the death metal-goods like Opeth. That's why its very disappointing that they to such a large degree have left the death behind on Watershed. Let's hope for more brutality on the next album ...

N3M3S1S · June 11th, 2008, 10:09 AM

To right, need more brutality, nuff said really. I will listen to it more, just like Ghost Reveries I still listen to that once a month or two. Yes I know there wont be another "classic" opeth album but one can wish

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Lothlorien · June 11th, 2008, 10:10 AM

I adore Watershed. it boggles my mind how people on here arent praising it. i know everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but opeth has always been about progressing and never making the same album twice, watershed feels so new and fresh to me when i compare it to opeth's catalog. watershed will satisfy me until they make their next album in a couple years.

Still Life 1891 · June 11th, 2008, 10:22 AM

I agree with that allmusic guide. I think that Watershed is a fantastic record (though not my favourite), but it seems to me like its a prelude to something better. I think that Ghost Reveries took that aspect of the band as far as it could, while Watershed is an almost complete shake-up of the bands sound. The next one will certainly be extremely interesting, and I think that it could be a classic

Carnivean · June 11th, 2008, 10:38 AM

Watershed is as the homepage says.. A masterpiece. You are not gonna get that Orchid through Still Life style anymore so give it up already.. they are not gonna make Still Life 2 or Orchid 2 just to please all the "true original Opeth fans". Mikael said himself that each album has been written by starting off with a clean slate.. and it has shown album by album (NO ALBUM IS EVEN CLOSE TO THE SOUND OF THE NEXT). If you really are a fan of Opeth, you should have learned this by now... come on.

Watershed is a breath of fresh air. Ghost Reveries, the epic, outstanding album it is indeed, was just a bit grey and dry for must of us and we needed that juicyness back in the writing. Watershed certainly gave us that juicyness and more. With that, the addition of Per, Ax, and Freddy have proven to show unbelievable benefits and, as they state on the DVD, will create the strongest Opeth line-up yet for years to come. They fucking nailed this album.

Also, keep in mind that Opeth, being one of the most highly-respected and adored bands in the world also means that the fans have grown to expect extreme perfection from every little fuckin thing that these musicians write. Do you even know how much pressure that is? A ton.
I am astounded that this group of men have managed to create such a fresh, and CLASSIC album at their age and point in their careers. I mean it's like what the fuck are they smoking? Musical steroids? Stop examining Opeth through a microscope and start examining them through your ears.

Iki-ilkkuja · June 11th, 2008, 10:45 AM

I was surprised at first, but after a few listens I've really liked what I've heard.

The Don · June 11th, 2008, 10:47 AM

I was extremely disappointed for reasons that people have already mentioned. Anyone can do the whole gay prog rock band thing, but no one can make death metal like Opeth. Brutality / Softness ratio was just pathetic. While I enjoy Burden, Heir Apparant, and The Lotus Eater, the rest of the tracks just filler. His clean vocals have this new "style" to them which make me want to strangle Mike. He tries to be more expressive but it takes the pretentious record to overwhelmingly smug heights.

Aside from the fact that Opeth is prog rock with a side of metal now, the 3 songs I mentioned really are awesome. Heir Apparant sticks out like a sore thumb, but it reminds me of something off of MAYH, especially the softer parts.

Opeth have become one of those "I hope I like a track or two off their next disc" along with In Flames, Soilwork, Bodom, etc.

The Don · June 11th, 2008, 10:50 AM

Also when Mike was recording the record and giving the press updates, didn't he say Watershed was supposed to be "the darkest and heaviest record yet"? He definitely talked up Watershed and Ghost Reveries like they were his masterpieces but let's face it, these 2 records are extremely par at best given what he used to be capable of. It's hard not to be disappointed when Mike says things like that and then releases Watershed.

Iki-ilkkuja · June 11th, 2008, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by The Don

I was extremely disappointed for reasons that people have already mentioned. Anyone can do the whole gay prog rock band thing, but no one can make death metal like Opeth. Brutality / Softness ratio was just pathetic. While I enjoy Burden, Heir Apparant, and The Lotus Eater, the rest of the tracks just filler. His clean vocals have this new "style" to them which make me want to strangle Mike. He tries to be more expressive but it takes the pretentious record to overwhelmingly smug heights.

Aside from the fact that Opeth is prog rock with a side of metal now, the 3 songs I mentioned really are awesome. Heir Apparant sticks out like a sore thumb, but it reminds me of something off of MAYH, especially the softer parts.

Opeth have become one of those "I hope I like a track or two off their next disc" along with In Flames, Soilwork, Bodom, etc.

Progressive rock isn't easy to compose AND make it interesting to the listener. It's the musicians' genre I belive. You get more out of it when you play something as it offers chord progressions and melodies not heard in traditional rock music.

June 11th, 2008, 10:10 AM	#30 (permalink)
Lothlorien Towards the Great Sky Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 1,596	I adore Watershed. it boggles my mind how people on here arent praising it. i know everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but opeth has always been about progressing and never making the same album twice, watershed feels so new and fresh to me when i compare it to opeth's catalog. watershed will satisfy me until they make their next album in a couple years. __________________ My Myspace My band- Lothlorien

June 11th, 2008, 10:45 AM	#33 (permalink)
Iki-ilkkuja Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Turku, Finland Posts: 640	I was surprised at first, but after a few listens I've really liked what I've heard. __________________ Morning rises with sound quality comparable to my own recordings.

June 11th, 2008, 10:09 AM	#29 (permalink)
N3M3S1S Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 34	To right, need more brutality, nuff said really. I will listen to it more, just like Ghost Reveries I still listen to that once a month or two. Yes I know there wont be another "classic" opeth album but one can wish .

June 11th, 2008, 10:22 AM	#31 (permalink)
Still Life 1891 Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: England Posts: 74	I agree with that allmusic guide. I think that Watershed is a fantastic record (though not my favourite), but it seems to me like its a prelude to something better. I think that Ghost Reveries took that aspect of the band as far as it could, while Watershed is an almost complete shake-up of the bands sound. The next one will certainly be extremely interesting, and I think that it could be a classic

June 11th, 2008, 10:38 AM	#32 (permalink)
Carnivean Let Your Mind Do the Work Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Colorado, USA Posts: 19	Watershed is as the homepage says.. A masterpiece. You are not gonna get that Orchid through Still Life style anymore so give it up already.. they are not gonna make Still Life 2 or Orchid 2 just to please all the "true original Opeth fans". Mikael said himself that each album has been written by starting off with a clean slate.. and it has shown album by album (NO ALBUM IS EVEN CLOSE TO THE SOUND OF THE NEXT). If you really are a fan of Opeth, you should have learned this by now... come on. Watershed is a breath of fresh air. Ghost Reveries, the epic, outstanding album it is indeed, was just a bit grey and dry for must of us and we needed that juicyness back in the writing. Watershed certainly gave us that juicyness and more. With that, the addition of Per, Ax, and Freddy have proven to show unbelievable benefits and, as they state on the DVD, will create the strongest Opeth line-up yet for years to come. They fucking nailed this album. Also, keep in mind that Opeth, being one of the most highly-respected and adored bands in the world also means that the fans have grown to expect extreme perfection from every little fuckin thing that these musicians write. Do you even know how much pressure that is? A ton. I am astounded that this group of men have managed to create such a fresh, and CLASSIC album at their age and point in their careers. I mean it's like what the fuck are they smoking? Musical steroids? Stop examining Opeth through a microscope and start examining them through your ears.