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Old June 11th, 2008, 07:51 PM   #101 (permalink)
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I think that the mixed responses everyone gives is something that makes Opeth, Opeth. Everyone thought and hoped it was going to be an atmospheric, twisted return to the old BM-influenced Opeth and they get something so diverse that comes from Mikael himself - I think that's what I like about it, because I can almost read his mind with the songs. Sure, it's not a Blackwater Park or a Still Life. That's why we have those albums, to show the pathway that leads to each record. I've had time to digest it and of course, thought it was so fucking awesome to be listening to fucking Watershed. People just become blindsided with the status of how a band that has risen to this peak works, adding the factors of Peter's departure and Axe's fill-in. I don't care what anybody says - Akesson brought spice to this record, and generally adds to the 'how the fuck did they do that' feeling. Alot of times people in bands will say they make the music for their enjoyment and it's not always for the fans, though most bands tend to lean towards the pleasing the masses approach - like I stated above, with Watershed, it's a bit of a collective example of your creativity. That's what makes it so cool to me.

Mikael, if you read this at all; I find it so incredibly generous to have a direct response coming from the one behind it all - not forgetting the rest of the team, as one of my favorite past-times while enjoying any Opeth song is to pick apart the different parts each person plays - because I feel I'm closer to Opeth than someone who just listens to them. It's something I think everyone on this forum should feel grateful for.

I think the main reason why so many self-described "Opeth fans" hate Watershed, is because they got their expectations up waaaaaay too high. I always expect a good release from Opeth, but things happen, and you just never know. I mean, look at Cryptopsy's new album. That band went from being to the top of Death Metal to now being a complete and utter joke. Now, I trust in Mikael and I know the dude has good taste, but the day Opeth releases a completely awful album is the day that Opeth will begin to start fading away. I've said it before: The day they lose Mike, they lose it all.
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Old June 11th, 2008, 08:07 PM   #102 (permalink)
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I am not disappointed. It is different (not bad).

But I will say, I was much more blown away by Ghost Reveries initially than I was with Watershed.
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Old June 11th, 2008, 08:15 PM   #103 (permalink)
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You never thought once that demons and satan were, you know, metaphors for some kind of underlying reality that we are all afraid of? Because to me, if I was living in a fantasyland and if in reality there was no god, if the world was violent chaotic and unforgiving, there would be nothing darker than the knowledge of those facts. And maybe it's the metal bands who are choosing to live in real life, while those who think it's 'silly' and 'just a bit of fun' are covering up their own ignorance. When Mary Shelly wrote Frankenstein, she wasn't actually writing about a comedy about a dude making a silly monster. Just something to think about.
oh really? That never occurred to me ever. Cheers for that genius insight!
The original point must have got lost somewhere in fantasyland too I suppose!
Never mind eh? I think Mikael pretty much cleared it up!
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Old June 11th, 2008, 08:33 PM   #104 (permalink)
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@Shredzilla - exactly, and you see my point. That's the thing about bands that have a reputation for changing things up, those who expect too much will ultimately be disappointed due to their own visions being destroyed by the BAND's vision (Opeth) or in your example, Cryptopsy. And i'll agree, they went to absolute shit. xD

I have a kinda special connection to Opeth's older albums as with MAYH - I went onto Opeth's site after listening to Damnation and GR and looked at their Discography, and saw My Arms, Your Hearse's album cover and went, woah....what a fucking cover, almost inviting you to journey to what's at the end of its' trail. And especially Morningrise too; the overall vibe of the imagery and music got me hooked - never before had I felt such powerful visions with music. I may be going off the deep end for most people but, I'll never forget it. That's what I try to get at is that each album comes from a different world, a different imaginative horizon not similar to the previous one. Most people who expect too much miss it.
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Old June 11th, 2008, 08:46 PM   #105 (permalink)
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Eh, what? Every album is awesome, Watershed is no exception. Anyone who thinks it sucks can go die in a relatively large fire.
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Old June 11th, 2008, 08:58 PM   #106 (permalink)
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Eh, what? Every album is awesome, Watershed is no exception. Anyone who thinks it sucks can go die in a relatively large fire.
Perfect, logical argument there fellow. Keep it up.
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Old June 11th, 2008, 09:16 PM   #107 (permalink)
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Perfect, logical argument there fellow. Keep it up.
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Old June 11th, 2008, 09:43 PM   #108 (permalink)
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Not disappointed in the least.
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Old June 11th, 2008, 10:01 PM   #109 (permalink)
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Perfect, logical argument there fellow. Keep it up.
Great counter argument.
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Old June 11th, 2008, 10:03 PM   #110 (permalink)
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I haven't read most of this thread... most of what I did read pissed me off too much. (Why isn't it like Morninrise/MAYH?!?!?...)

This is by far my favourite Opeth work at this moment. It contains absolutely everything I wanted to hear from the band. I wasn't a big fan of GR, but I like Opeth a lot so I still had high expecations for the new album. This exceeded them.
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Old June 11th, 2008, 10:04 PM   #111 (permalink)
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Coil was a pretty bold first track. Hussain Peel seems to be the signature track of the album, but the whole album flows very well. Some old 70's prog influences, not as dynamic in terms of loud/soft, but I feel very well written. Hard to compare it to anything they have done. Still trying to absorb it. But I agree that I had a more "yeah" feel to first hearing Ghost Reveries.

Did Mendez cut his fucking hair? Why?
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