Opeth songs you hate

Nathan_lol · June 25th, 2008, 01:13 AM

I hate to be negative, but what Opeth songs do you hate, and why? For me:

Weakness - God dammit I hate that keyboard patch. And it's really fucking boring, they should have ended Damnation with some thing really heavy, that would have been amazing.

Atonement - JESUS CHIRST THIS IS BORING AHHHHH IT JUST GOES ON AND ON

Porcelain Heart - The riffs in the song repeat for twice as long as they should. It is the songwriting equivalent of writing a novel that says every world twice. The radio edit is actually better.

DirTh · June 25th, 2008, 01:24 AM

I personally don't hate any whole songs, but i absolutely hate it when they go from a mad fast bit to an extremley slow and boring part. Sometimes it works well others are predictable and quite frustrating. Eg. 4:07 - 5:48 in The Lotus Eater. Great song overall I just hate having to skip past that.

Pantagruel · June 25th, 2008, 01:29 AM

I dont hate any of their songs, I'm just saying the ones I think are mediocre I guess..

Silhouette - I love the idea, I wish piano was used more in Opeth, but this coulda been a lot better.
Moonlapse Vertigo - I just can't get into this song, though I dig the first half. The rest pretty much does nothing for me.

Headcrab · June 25th, 2008, 01:31 AM

I don't dislike any Opeth songs. I find Weakness's message extremely powerful in its simplicity, especially the last two lines. "I'm not afraid of what you have just done/ But of what you've just become." That hit me hard the first time I heard it, with the way the keyboard cuts out to leave only his voice at the very end. Atonement just wasn't enough, in my opinion. I respect that they were trying something new, and giving Per a chance to shine, but the lyrics are bland as well as the structure, and the chorus of "aah" doesn't really do much to help it out. With that being said, I like the guitar 'theme,' which is enough to make me listen to it every once in a while.

One song I was never too fond of was Under the Weeping Moon. I thought the interlude was too dragged out, and the lyrics a bit too much of a black metal cliche. Now, though, after hearing it on Roundhouse Tapes, I've been more into it. I think it has some of the better Opeth riffs in it. Although Blackwater Park is by far my favorite album of all time, I had trouble getting into Dirge for November at first because of the intro, but after listening to it for a while, I grew to absolutely love the heavy riffs, namely the verse riff with the tritones and the one before it with the bending lead over it. The outro has some excellent chord choice, and the icy atmosphere makes it truly chilling to the bone. When that song ends, I always feel the need for silent reflection.

intothetrees · June 25th, 2008, 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Nathan_lol

The radio edit is actually better.

:O they actually play Opeth on the radio where you come from? lucky kid.

ThepOpeth · June 25th, 2008, 01:34 AM

Circle of the Tyrant, yes i know its a cover. Oh and cant really listen to Porcelain Heart.

Headcrab · June 25th, 2008, 01:38 AM

Yea, disregard my last post. I forgot about Porcelain Heart.

The structure is not good, because the heavy opening riff nor the acoustic verse riff are enough to stand on their own, and as the OP pointed out, they repeat too many times anyway. From the vocal rhythm seemingly borrowed from To Rid the Disease to the heavy "aah" riff which seems to be a bland mix between the acoustic interlude in Ghost of Perdition and the main riff from The Grand Conjuration, I just can't listen to that song.

intothetrees · June 25th, 2008, 01:47 AM

But really, I don't think it's possible to actually hate an Opeth song. I love the different elements they add to their music. Perhaps some parts of a song seem rather dull, but it balances out with the rest of the song.

Godhead59 · June 25th, 2008, 01:59 AM

There are no songs that I really hate, but there are ones I don't particularly like, such as:

By The Pain I See in Others - Quite a mediocre one imo. All over the place, disjointed and lacks any spirit. There are some nice parts, like the "nothing ever changes" chant and the first "rise to submission", but overall it's a very confused, annoying-sounding piece to me.

Porcelain Heart - I think it's evident that the song's been scrapped twice before reaching its current shape. It's very disjointed and lacks a punch. I think in some areas it just cries out for some growls. It also reeks of older songs, like The Grand Conjuration and To Rid the Disease, which isn't something that would regularly bother me, seeing how Hessian Peel has a riff that's very reminiscent of the "chorus" riff in A Fair Judgement, but here it really, really stands out.

Black Rose Immortal - Just cut every segment of it into a song of its own and it's awesome. As it is, it's a disjointed 20 minutes that feels very Ctrl+C Ctrl+V.

Kalabalik · June 25th, 2008, 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Nathan_lol

Weakness - God dammit I hate that keyboard patch. And it's really fucking boring, they should have ended Damnation with some thing really heavy, that would have been amazing.

I can't believe what I'm reading.

Slynt · June 25th, 2008, 02:03 AM

Hate is a word I reserve for those that really deserve it, not for songs of my favorite band. That being said, I don't particularly like 'Hex Omega', 'Atonement', 'Harvest' (this one is actually growing on me at the moment though), 'Isolation Years', 'Weakness', 'Hours of Wealth', and that Robin Trower-cover is awful

June 25th, 2008, 01:13 AM	#1 (permalink)
Nathan_lol Sex Babies Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Arizona Posts: 45	Opeth songs you hate I hate to be negative, but what Opeth songs do you hate, and why? For me: Weakness - God dammit I hate that keyboard patch. And it's really fucking boring, they should have ended Damnation with some thing really heavy, that would have been amazing. Atonement - JESUS CHIRST THIS IS BORING AHHHHH IT JUST GOES ON AND ON Porcelain Heart - The riffs in the song repeat for twice as long as they should. It is the songwriting equivalent of writing a novel that says every world twice. The radio edit is actually better. __________________

June 25th, 2008, 01:24 AM	#2 (permalink)
DirTh The Puppet Master Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Valhalla Posts: 1,346	I personally don't hate any whole songs, but i absolutely hate it when they go from a mad fast bit to an extremley slow and boring part. Sometimes it works well others are predictable and quite frustrating. Eg. 4:07 - 5:48 in The Lotus Eater. Great song overall I just hate having to skip past that. __________________ Carrion Ash

June 25th, 2008, 01:29 AM	#3 (permalink)
Pantagruel Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 37	I dont hate any of their songs, I'm just saying the ones I think are mediocre I guess.. Silhouette - I love the idea, I wish piano was used more in Opeth, but this coulda been a lot better. Moonlapse Vertigo - I just can't get into this song, though I dig the first half. The rest pretty much does nothing for me. Last edited by Pantagruel : June 25th, 2008 at 01:33 AM.

June 25th, 2008, 01:31 AM	#4 (permalink)
Headcrab Oh ye of few mistakes Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: The climax of an action movie Posts: 51	I don't dislike any Opeth songs. I find Weakness's message extremely powerful in its simplicity, especially the last two lines. "I'm not afraid of what you have just done/ But of what you've just become." That hit me hard the first time I heard it, with the way the keyboard cuts out to leave only his voice at the very end. Atonement just wasn't enough, in my opinion. I respect that they were trying something new, and giving Per a chance to shine, but the lyrics are bland as well as the structure, and the chorus of "aah" doesn't really do much to help it out. With that being said, I like the guitar 'theme,' which is enough to make me listen to it every once in a while. One song I was never too fond of was Under the Weeping Moon. I thought the interlude was too dragged out, and the lyrics a bit too much of a black metal cliche. Now, though, after hearing it on Roundhouse Tapes, I've been more into it. I think it has some of the better Opeth riffs in it. Although Blackwater Park is by far my favorite album of all time, I had trouble getting into Dirge for November at first because of the intro, but after listening to it for a while, I grew to absolutely love the heavy riffs, namely the verse riff with the tritones and the one before it with the bending lead over it. The outro has some excellent chord choice, and the icy atmosphere makes it truly chilling to the bone. When that song ends, I always feel the need for silent reflection. __________________ Alliteration and rhyming with terrible timing

June 25th, 2008, 01:34 AM	#6 (permalink)
ThepOpeth If I am haunted.. Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Laredo Texas, USA Posts: 143	Circle of the Tyrant, yes i know its a cover. Oh and cant really listen to Porcelain Heart. __________________ " When can we scream instead of whisper? " - When

June 25th, 2008, 01:38 AM	#7 (permalink)
Headcrab Oh ye of few mistakes Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: The climax of an action movie Posts: 51	Yea, disregard my last post. I forgot about Porcelain Heart. The structure is not good, because the heavy opening riff nor the acoustic verse riff are enough to stand on their own, and as the OP pointed out, they repeat too many times anyway. From the vocal rhythm seemingly borrowed from To Rid the Disease to the heavy "aah" riff which seems to be a bland mix between the acoustic interlude in Ghost of Perdition and the main riff from The Grand Conjuration, I just can't listen to that song. __________________ Alliteration and rhyming with terrible timing

June 25th, 2008, 01:47 AM	#8 (permalink)
intothetrees Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Abbotsford, BC. Posts: 71	But really, I don't think it's possible to actually hate an Opeth song. I love the different elements they add to their music. Perhaps some parts of a song seem rather dull, but it balances out with the rest of the song.

June 25th, 2008, 01:59 AM	#9 (permalink)
Godhead59 Dim Sam Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Harlequin Forest Posts: 944	There are no songs that I really hate, but there are ones I don't particularly like, such as: By The Pain I See in Others - Quite a mediocre one imo. All over the place, disjointed and lacks any spirit. There are some nice parts, like the "nothing ever changes" chant and the first "rise to submission", but overall it's a very confused, annoying-sounding piece to me. Porcelain Heart - I think it's evident that the song's been scrapped twice before reaching its current shape. It's very disjointed and lacks a punch. I think in some areas it just cries out for some growls. It also reeks of older songs, like The Grand Conjuration and To Rid the Disease, which isn't something that would regularly bother me, seeing how Hessian Peel has a riff that's very reminiscent of the "chorus" riff in A Fair Judgement, but here it really, really stands out. Black Rose Immortal - Just cut every segment of it into a song of its own and it's awesome. As it is, it's a disjointed 20 minutes that feels very Ctrl+C Ctrl+V. __________________ Please check out my deviantART gallery and tell me what you think. Last.fm

June 25th, 2008, 02:03 AM	#11 (permalink)
Slynt Lord and Liar Join Date: May 2001 Location: Norway Posts: 1,141	Hate is a word I reserve for those that really deserve it, not for songs of my favorite band. That being said, I don't particularly like 'Hex Omega', 'Atonement', 'Harvest' (this one is actually growing on me at the moment though), 'Isolation Years', 'Weakness', 'Hours of Wealth', and that Robin Trower-cover is awful __________________