Moderation & Board Issues - Page 2

Blaphbee · February 23rd, 2006, 01:11 PM

Those are your words above, in my previous post.

Do you deny this to be your position? Do you also deny that this position is colouring your moderation of the forum and the viewpoints expressed?

Also, you egomaniac, this isn't just about you, you just happen to be here, and are taking this personally - it's about the both of you.

derek · February 23rd, 2006, 01:15 PM

I cannot speak for Speed, only myself. Hence the personal response.

I do deny what your saying about me, yes. I have edited almost no posts, nor deleted many since becoming a moderator. I have no interest in censoring views I disagree with.

Blaphbee · February 23rd, 2006, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Final_Product

I cannot speak for Speed, only myself. Hence the personal response.

I do deny what your saying about me, yes. I have edited almost no posts, nor deleted many since becoming a moderator. I have no interest in censoring views I disagree with.

What am I saying about you? I'm simply showing that you have an existing bias, and you are not only PMing members to tell them to stop posting to such an effect, but now, you're denying that you have a problem with opinions contrary to your own. Based on this, being an impartial moderator seems to be beyond your range.

Again, you're putting words in my mouth.

derek · February 23rd, 2006, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Blaphbee

What am I saying about you? I'm simply showing that you have an existing bias, and you are not only PMing members to tell them to stop posting to such an effect, but now, you're denying that you have a problem with opinions contrary to your own. Based on this, being an impartial moderator seems to be beyond your range.

Again, you're putting words in my mouth.

I deny what you have charged me with, yes. I think I can be an able moderator and think the same for speed. Like all folks, I do have bias and opinion, yes. Do I enforce my opinions on this board in a dictating fashion? No.

By all means, take this to the boards owners.

speed · February 23rd, 2006, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Blaphbee

What am I saying about you? I'm simply showing that you have an existing bias, and you are not only PMing members to tell them to stop posting to such an effect, but now, you're denying that you have a problem with opinions contrary to your own. Based on this, being an impartial moderator seems to be beyond your range.

Again, you're putting words in my mouth.

If we are guilty of attempting to stem the posting of information contrary to the facts, history, and basic human values, then yes, color me guilty. I think you will find your argument--which is based on the protection of monstrous ideas--will get you nowhere with any higher power, other than the local Nazi chapter.

Furthermore, any threads that have been shut down--and those of Norsemaiden in particular, were based on clearly false information, which in some I argued against. We have entire threads lately that are based on crock-pot theories. I have pm'ed Norsemaiden, numerous times about her constant unsubstantiated conspiracy theories about Jews, Blacks and others.

Norsemaiden · March 4th, 2006, 04:36 AM

I want to do a thread about promiscuity. I nearly posted it but I am having problems trying to work out how explicit (not gratuitously - but definitely explicit) this is allowed to be. Promiscuity is relevant to many issues of human behaviour and society. I agree not to talk about race in my posts on this subject. I was going to refer in the thread starter to research regarding penis/testes size in apes and how that relates to their behaviour and how it has recently been discovered that promiscuous bats trade off brain size for larger testicles. PLEASE ADVISE!!!

judas69 · March 4th, 2006, 05:00 AM

I'm glad to see I'm not the only one who has had past issues with either Speed (especially) and Final Product (to a lesser extent), and their capabilities as far as impartial moderation goes.

My issue with Speed began with his indiscriminate removal of my posts and consequently, I rarely post here anymore (less than 1 post per week in this area) for just this reason. I for one would like to see Speed removed, but that's my opinion. If anyone backs me up on this or just feels like we need a new group of moderators, you can pm me privately.

speed · March 4th, 2006, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by judas69

I'm glad to see I'm not the only one who has had past issues with either Speed (especially) and Final Product (to a lesser extent), and their capabilities as far as impartial moderation goes.

My issue with Speed began with his indiscriminate removal of my posts and consequently, I rarely post here anymore (less than 1 post per week in this area) for just this reason. I for one would like to see Speed removed, but that's my opinion. If anyone backs me up on this or just feels like we need a new group of moderators, you can pm me privately.

I believe I aplogized and undeleted them hours later. I am not perfect; mistakes will be made. We have only been moderators for almost two months, and this is the only incident I would have changed.

However, you clearly have a personal problem with me that started way before this incident--which was a personal, not a philosophical argument anyway.

If anyone else has a problem, please feel free to post them on this thread. It will only assist us in becoming better moderators, or in the case that everyone wishes one of us to step down, I for one will do so.

judas69 · March 4th, 2006, 10:27 AM

Actually, I insist they PM me privately; anonymity is important here if you really want fairness, Speed.

Don't get me wrong though, I just came wondering into this area when I was somewhat surprised (but not really) to see there were others who had a few concerns aswell. You make it sound like you're policing the nation or something. Remember, it's a fucking metal board ..posts don't kill people; no ones life is at stake here.

derek · March 4th, 2006, 12:37 PM

If you feel the need to have a secret PM society where you all conspire to remove us then so be it.

Speed and myself (with a few hurdles to begin with) have been pretty damn fair on this board and have tried to approach everything rationally and fairly.

I honestly like(ed) these boards and much enjoyed posting, but Since becoming moderator it has been an endless merry-go-round of childish games and back-stabbing.

I also ask that anyone who feels our moderation is fine, to say so. If this board does disprove unanimously of my moderation, I am more than willing to stand down.