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March 31st, 2007, 05:39 PM
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a lot like most of modern logic
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How did you come to this conclusion?
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March 31st, 2007, 05:45 PM
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How did you come to this conclusion?
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Humm ... the relativist absolutist nature of liberalism is a good one.
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March 31st, 2007, 05:51 PM
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Humm ... the relativist absolutist nature of liberalism is a good one.
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What in the world are you talking about? Are you talking about modern logic as in the modern form of the science of valid inferences or are you talking about something else?
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March 31st, 2007, 06:32 PM
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What in the world are you talking about? Are you talking about modern logic as in the modern form of the science of valid inferences or are you talking about something else?
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lol
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March 31st, 2007, 08:04 PM
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Why would you ever waste your brain power on that? It's a self-contradiction, the sentence, a lot like most of modern logic; woop-de-doo. Truly pointless philosophy without real application is worthless.
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Its the most famous paradox in all of philosophy. Its been around for a few thousand years for fuck sake. And I think its an excellent primer if one is interested in such fields of philosophy.
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March 31st, 2007, 08:45 PM
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lol
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Holy shit, you're fucking worthless. Either add something constructive or stay the fuck out.
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March 31st, 2007, 08:49 PM
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Its the most famous paradox in all of philosophy. Its been around for a few thousand years for fuck sake. And I think its an excellent primer if one is interested in such fields of philosophy.
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What is its use?
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March 31st, 2007, 09:07 PM
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Holy shit, you're fucking worthless. Either add something constructive or stay the fuck out.
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"Are you talking about modern logic as in the modern form of the science of valid inferences or are you talking about something else?"

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April 1st, 2007, 01:56 AM
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"Are you talking about modern logic as in the modern form of the science of valid inferences or are you talking about something else?"

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April 1st, 2007, 04:55 PM
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I started writing a reply explaining what applications have been made of the mathematical techniques that have been spawned by reflection on the liar paradox, and some central metamathematical theorems (most importantly Tarski's Theoem on the indefinability of arithmetical truth) that have been proven as a result. In a quite clear sense these should provide an answer to Έρεβος's question - mathematical applications are applications par excellence. However, I assume that what he is asking for are applications to moral and political issues and the like, and spelling out the mathematical applications won't answer that. I don't think one is unwarranted in being interested in an issue in philosophy that does not have any application to those sorts of concerns.
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Originally Posted by Έρεβος
It's a self-contradiction, the sentence, a lot like most of modern logic; woop-de-doo
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Sounds like you know a whole lot about logic.
Last edited by derbeder : April 1st, 2007 at 09:08 PM.
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