War on ____

[JoeVice]

derek, i read that you have a soft spot for cheesy metaphorical conversations. i think thats where real and applied philisophical ideas become sugahhh!!! i hope this doesn't turn you away from here, you pussy.

[TheAnonymous]

I find it ridiculous to claim there's no such a thing is terrorism. It's just turning a blind eye to what is certainly out there. Are you saying that every terrorist even that ever happened was a lie?
Maybe from where you live it would be easier to think that. Unless I'm mistaken Britain has only suffered from one terrorist attack in recent years. I live in a country that is under a constant terrorist threat, and certainly these people are not working alone or they would never be able to achieve their accomplishment. They have organizations which in turn have bigger organizations that are responsible for their funding and training, and it is well known that they are active all over the world and it has been proved by terrorist attacks by those organizations in places all over the world. I am truthfully shocked that people try to think otherwise...

[derek]

Originally Posted by JoeVice

derek, i read that you have a soft spot for cheesy metaphorical conversations. i think thats where real and applied philisophical ideas become sugahhh!!! i hope this doesn't turn you away from here, you pussy.

I was turned away from this place a long time ago. I've seen little to draw me back in the past few years. None of the regulars of old, bar Norsemaiden and Blowtus, seem to post anymore.

[JoeVice]

yah, it seems to me a lot of folks, including old posters, frequently lurk around here, but don't post...as if they have something better to do.

[Norsemaiden]

Originally Posted by TheAnonymous

I find it ridiculous to claim there's no such a thing is terrorism. It's just turning a blind eye to what is certainly out there. Are you saying that every terrorist even that ever happened was a lie?
Maybe from where you live it would be easier to think that. Unless I'm mistaken Britain has only suffered from one terrorist attack in recent years. I live in a country that is under a constant terrorist threat, and certainly these people are not working alone or they would never be able to achieve their accomplishment. They have organizations which in turn have bigger organizations that are responsible for their funding and training, and it is well known that they are active all over the world and it has been proved by terrorist attacks by those organizations in places all over the world. I am truthfully shocked that people try to think otherwise...

No one is saying there is no such thing as terrorism. Only that terrorism has been deliberately hyped, and even encouraged in a carefully and cynically controlled way.
Israel, as you should know, is a state that was born out of terrorism. 3 Israeli prime ministers were or are terrorists.
http://www.serendipity.li/zionism/israel_terr.htm

The arabs have traditionally been very peaceful - until provoked beyond human tolerance by the inhumanity suffered at the hands of the Israelis that drives many to such extremes of desperation that they would attack an Israeli while armed with nothing more than a cutlery fork.

The war on terror has made targets out of western nations that previously were not. Even then, the muslim extremists seem to prefer to make the point that it is our support for Israel that most angers them. Israel finds it convenient that the terrorists now can attack more than Israel, which gives them a reprieve, whilst aslo being able to say: "look what we suffer. Aren't those arabs a menace?"

Britain has suffered far more terrorism from the IRA than the deaths Israel has suffered from arabs. But the IRA no longer feel the need to bomb.

[WeAreInFlames]

Originally Posted by Nele

I personally don't think the war on terrorism was a necessary one. You're absolutely right when you say that terrorism must be stopped or it'll get worse. I just don't think that, for example, dropping bombs on a country where a mighty terrorist might be hiding is the answer? And the war in Iraq was supposed to be another step in the war on terrorism. Because there were supposed to be illegal mass destruction weapons (I'm sorry if this is not the correct term ).
Wooops. They didn't find illegal weapons. They found a whole lot of oil.

To be honest, the war in Iraq has made things worse in terms of terrorism...

Originally Posted by Norsemaiden

And the funny thing is: our government actually is the real enemy.

Originally Posted by Rintrah

Are you kidding me? The reason the drug trade is lethal is because of the War on Drugs. If drugs were legal, individuals would have much easier access to SAFE drugs, and there wouldn't be a huge industry provided to scumbag real criminals.

Chicken or egg?
Either way, legalization would solve a lot of problems.

Originally Posted by Rintrah

And that means you don't really know much, except the bile they teach you in gov't-guided health class, which isn't really "knowing," as 99% of it isn't true.

Drugs are the single-most valuable and beneficial biological resource, aside from food, water, and air, known to man.

[Rintrah]

Originally Posted by WeAreInFlames

Exactly the problem.

[WeAreInFlames]

Sorry, but when people say things like "the government is the enemy" or "drugs are our most valid asset" I find it hard to take them seriously.

[derek]

To an extent Government as it exists in many Western companies is indeed the enemy. I wouldn't necessarily take that to mean an "Evil Organisation" type of enemy, but they're certainly involved in the spiritual sickness we're all spluttering up.

[Norsemaiden]

Originally Posted by derek

To an extent Government as it exists in many Western companies is indeed the enemy. I wouldn't necessarily take that to mean an "Evil Organisation" type of enemy, but they're certainly involved in the spiritual sickness we're all spluttering up.

I don't entirely agree with this (mostly because my view of Hitler, who was a National Socialist rather than a fascist, is inconsistent with the impression given here) but I wondered if you have read it and agree with it Derek?

Fascist America, in 10 easy steps

From Hitler to Pinochet and beyond, history shows there are certain steps that any would-be dictator must take to destroy constitutional freedoms. And, argues Naomi Wolf, George Bush and his administration seem to be taking them all.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2007/apr/24/usa.comment