Humans and their love of violence

[Blowtus]

Derek, I fear that if I moderated the way you call for, there would be no discussion at all occurring in the forum. Yes, the forum seems to be degenerating a bit, but better that people have a chance to discuss and learn than every thread be locked / deleted. At the end of the day, it is a sub forum of a metal board, and if it is not being put to the high quality of use (as you and I might consider it) that it once was, then that is disappointing - but closing every thread that doesn't stand up to the old standard would seem no way of bringing such standard back, to me.

However, if you want your old mod powers back, just say so.

[Fenrisúlfr]

Methinks it is only through enforcement and exemplification of the old standards that they will be made the norm.

[Blowtus]

There are plenty of unused forums around, I don't see them suddenly filling up with intelligent and active philosopher types... I'd suggest there must be something more to creating such an environment than the absence of 'less worthy' posters...

[Fenrisúlfr]

I would wager the culprit is the public schooling...c'est la vie.

[trappedinaconer]

Originally Posted by razoredge

Its not a quality, nor is it innate, its a mental sickness, no different than that of the wife beater. The current cinema trend, that is acted out to some degree by "attitude" in real life is nothing more than mob mentality... same as which had people cheering in the streets for the bastille or to "burn the witches". Turn the tides in real life and you will find alot of pussys real quick, which is an indication of insecurity in ones physical and mental abilities.

So I'm mentally ill if the adrenaline rush from being a fight that I actually tried to avoid is a little exciting? Adrenaline is a natural chemical released into the human body in instances like that.Just because I would rather avoid the fight to begin with does not in any way make me a pussy. But if someone insists on throwing the first punch and not stopping after I restrain them or try to reason with them to cool off, I'm not gonna just stand there or run away.I'm going to fight to the best of my ability.Sorry if you think thats wrong, but in the end its just called defending yourself.


Which I also believe from your other posts, was something you cited as not being the same as violence for physical pleasure or any other sensory gratification. Just because I enjoy the adrenaline rush doesn't mean I would still fight if it was able to be stopped by negotiating with the other party.But that also doesn't mean that there aren't evil people out there that kill for pleasure, and that doesn't mean that there shouldn't be repercussions brought on people like that. I just think it was unfair for you to group me with psychos and other mentally ill people. Thats all.

[Einherjar86]

Originally Posted by derek

Gentlemen, this discussion is losing its relevancy a little.

Does anyone moderate around here?

Originally Posted by Blowtus

Derek, I fear that if I moderated the way you call for, there would be no discussion at all occurring in the forum. Yes, the forum seems to be degenerating a bit, but better that people have a chance to discuss and learn than every thread be locked / deleted. At the end of the day, it is a sub forum of a metal board, and if it is not being put to the high quality of use (as you and I might consider it) that it once was, then that is disappointing - but closing every thread that doesn't stand up to the old standard would seem no way of bringing such standard back, to me.

However, if you want your old mod powers back, just say so.

These threads will never reach a satisfying conclusion or proceed to surpass an eventual threshold because everyone's too stuck to their own opinion and beliefs. I agree that eventually it just becomes a shouting match, but hopefully some newcomer or intelligent poster will highlight a new and interesting point.

I personally have considered the posts of this thread closely and thoughtfully; but I'm not prepared to resign my beliefs. I actually think that the past few posts between razoredge and I have been worthwhile.

[razoredge]

Yes I agree some people just want to be all book philosophical only cloning the thoughts of their "piers" and use BIG words. Others such as myself like to express their own feelings and ways of comming to their own conclusions, unhampered by statis quo of proclaimed great thinkers or abstact theorists.

trapedinaconer - Not personal, Im sorry, actually you just matched my feelings. Thing is this topic started regarding watching gore flicks. I made statements regarding that there is a huge difference between going to the Collesuem to watch humans being mauled by Lions for shits and giggles to that of standing ones ground against violation. I know all about adreneline, wrestled for 6 yrs, took martial arts, downhill ski, water ski, dogsled, play loud music and worked hard physical labor my adult life because I get off on the rush and challenge.... at the same time I find no amusement in hurting any living thing or watching it be done. My whole point has been that there is a difference and that one is a sickness.

take your fight example, wouldnt you feel the asswipe that was giving you crap had some mental issues and you were simply standing your ground ? Wouldnt you consider that the difference between you and that person were day and night ? People that go out looking for fights have some underlying issue, people that beat the wife and kids have some underlying issue. This is how I feel about gore flicks and such. I hold no reservations on it, but then I have always found far better ways to entertain myself.

[Fenrisúlfr]

Piers...like this?

[Eligos]

That's a lovely pier. What's the location on that one? Maybe I'll vacate there.

[trappedinaconer]

Originally Posted by razoredge

Yes I agree some people just want to be all book philosophical only cloning the thoughts of their "piers" and use BIG words. Others such as myself like to express their own feelings and ways of comming to their own conclusions, unhampered by statis quo of proclaimed great thinkers or abstact theorists.

trapedinaconer - Not personal, Im sorry, actually you just matched my feelings. Thing is this topic started regarding watching gore flicks. I made statements regarding that there is a huge difference between going to the Collesuem to watch humans being mauled by Lions for shits and giggles to that of standing ones ground against violation. I know all about adreneline, wrestled for 6 yrs, took martial arts, downhill ski, water ski, dogsled, play loud music and worked hard physical labor my adult life because I get off on the rush and challenge.... at the same time I find no amusement in hurting any living thing or watching it be done. My whole point has been that there is a difference and that one is a sickness.

take your fight example, wouldnt you feel the asswipe that was giving you crap had some mental issues and you were simply standing your ground ? Wouldnt you consider that the difference between you and that person were day and night ? People that go out looking for fights have some underlying issue, people that beat the wife and kids have some underlying issue. This is how I feel about gore flicks and such. I hold no reservations on it, but then I have always found far better ways to entertain myself.

Lol. Thats all I was trying to say. Misunderstandings happen. Its cool though.