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June 13th, 2008, 01:28 AM
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Originally Posted by razoredge
the slavery issue contains a certain amount of amusment, not that I support it. Slavery was old as mankind, even the Native Americans took defeated tribe members into slavery, yet everyone acts like only the blacks in America were slaves. Yet we worship or amaze at ancient ruins that were constructed by slave labor.
Yes there are many forms of slavery, the capitolist labor market a prime example. Then of course there is the decades of tax dollars enslaving working America to support welfare for the kin of former slaves and the funds available were increased or rewarded by promoting having more children, bureaucratic brilliance at its finest.
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A tad off topic but I am gonna jump into this fray a bit.
Slavery amoung blacks was actually exploited much in the same reference that you make for Native Americans. Waring tribes often sold off or enslaved the losing captives of their fueds and this is really how the African slave trade began before Caucasions entered into the factor to exploit it.
Now I view illegal aliens almost as a form of new slave labor..altho the majority do not mind being exploited if they are treated reasonably fair by American labor standard and making a good life for a reasonably fair days American wage..its often 10times higher than what they would make for a days wage in Mexico. Yet, if they have the voice to complain, they often feel they are being underpaid in comparison to American counterparts...which is not always the case, there is plenty of skilled underpaid legal American workers as well.
Regardless of where you came from or your legal status, you're often asked of and worked pretty well for your money.
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June 13th, 2008, 02:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Möglich
On this same train of thought, we can perceive hidden investments in promoting liberties for the minority. It could, perhaps, be a wise and profitable (not necessarily profit measured by tangible currency) decision to establish and maintain the reputation of a state consistently setting precedent in areas like civil liberty.
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It's a collective profit-center unto itself and quite measurable in currency! The whole of the "Diversity/Civil Liberties/Tolerance/Equality/Social Justice" or similar industries - and make no mistake they ARE industries - have been and remain extremely lucrative. This greater egalitarian scheme has been wholly industrialized, employing legions in the public and private sectors, and making a cash-cow business of "equality."
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June 13th, 2008, 03:32 AM
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It's a collective profit-center unto itself and quite measurable in currency! The whole of the "Diversity/Civil Liberties/Tolerance/Equality/Social Justice" or similar industries - and make no mistake they ARE industries - have been and remain extremely lucrative. This greater egalitarian scheme has been wholly industrialized, employing legions in the public and private sectors, and making a cash-cow business of "equality."
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This aversely impacts the market not only in terms of the cost borne by the private sector, but also that this nonsense impacts smaller companies as a greater % of earnings, aversely impacting the marginal cost of their good or service vis-a-vis their competitor. The increased overall costs and the reduced competition on account of the disproportionate unit costs levied upon smaller players all couples to a 'hidden tax' in increased cost to the consumer, though at least the latter is kept within the private sector. Deregulation would be a win-win as it would not only lower unit costs, but it would ensure more players in the market place to keep them low via competition though the free market.
As for the enslavement of the capitalist system, there is no such slavery. The operative word in 'free market' is 'free'; just because one does not like the wages does not allow one to say that a system enslaves one's self. However, being compelled to surrender 1/3 of one's income so that overpaid bureaucrats may wallow in largesse, last I checked, would, though I outsmarted them and pay Dubai rates i.e. none.
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Yes there are many forms of slavery, the capitolist labor market a prime example. Then of course there is the decades of tax dollars enslaving working America to support welfare for the kin of former slaves and the funds available were increased or rewarded by promoting having more children, bureaucratic brilliance at its finest.
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Originally Posted by Google
Did you mean: capitalist
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capitol = nation's capitol
capital = starting capital (for a business)
I haven't made that orthographical error since middle school 
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June 13th, 2008, 10:19 AM
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good for you asshole, I've been out of school for 30 years and just type disregarding many we wittle things as I go... BFD
Nipick at typos like a wittle baby... how impressive
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June 13th, 2008, 10:43 AM
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It was somewhat amusing in its consistency, so I decided to poke fun at it. Likewise consistent but not so amusing is to make blanket general statements without being willing to back them up.
In 30 years, I hope they still make Jaguars...
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June 13th, 2008, 11:22 AM
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Nipick at typos like a wittle baby... how impressive
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Nitpick. 
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June 13th, 2008, 11:39 AM
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June 13th, 2008, 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Cipher
This aversely impacts the market not only in terms of the cost borne by the private sector, but also that this nonsense impacts smaller companies as a greater % of earnings, aversely impacting the marginal cost of their good or service vis-a-vis their competitor. The increased overall costs and the reduced competition on account of the disproportionate unit costs levied upon smaller players all couples to a 'hidden tax' in increased cost to the consumer, though at least the latter is kept within the private sector. Deregulation would be a win-win as it would not only lower unit costs, but it would ensure more players in the market place to keep them low via competition though the free market.
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Agreed - I was simply making an observation on the astonishingly lucrative nature of the "equality-industry" in and of itself.
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June 13th, 2008, 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Cipher
It was somewhat amusing in its consistency, so I decided to poke fun at it. Likewise consistent but not so amusing is to make blanket general statements without being willing to back them up.
In 30 years, I hope they still make Jaguars...
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yeah, well grow up, people dont come here or go anywhere for that matter to have some pompus ass look down their nose at them, seems to be your entire act, your so great and everyone else is an asshole
Now what "blanket" statement was it you feel I should do a 4 hour study on and present with footnotes to fullfil your ego ?
Jarman - Shut up !...... 
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June 13th, 2008, 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Cipher
This aversely impacts the market not only in terms of the cost borne by the private sector, but also that this nonsense impacts smaller companies as a greater % of earnings, aversely impacting the marginal cost of their good or service vis-a-vis their competitor. The increased overall costs and the reduced competition on account of the disproportionate unit costs levied upon smaller players all couples to a 'hidden tax' in increased cost to the consumer, though at least the latter is kept within the private sector. Deregulation would be a win-win as it would not only lower unit costs, but it would ensure more players in the market place to keep them low via competition though the free market.
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This all sounds good... if you were born in '92, reached puberty in 04 and werent around for Regans deregulation when all this BS started. Start ups dont stand a chance period and it has nothing to do with anything in your post.
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As for the enslavement of the capitalist system, there is no such slavery. The operative word in 'free market' is 'free'; just because one does not like the wages does not allow one to say that a system enslaves one's self.
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Yarite... see responce above
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