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May 11th, 2008, 10:02 PM
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WTF... Is that even a serious question? 
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WTF was that even a serious answer ? 
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May 12th, 2008, 11:56 AM
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the point was once Sabretooths now housecats
once ape like "men" now what ever it is we are.
the rest of the animal kingdom isnt doing a very good job "keeping up with the Jones"
just extinction of species shows lack of evolution and adaptation
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actually extinction shows problems with the creation hypothesis. why would god create a species only to allow it to go extinct? is he so inept that 99% of creations die out? extinction is exactly what we expect in an evolutionary scenario. those animals that are able to adapt to chaning environmental pressures go on to reproduce while those that cannot die out entirely.
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May 12th, 2008, 04:40 PM
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actually extinction shows problems with the creation hypothesis. why would god create a species only to allow it to go extinct? is he so inept that 99% of creations die out? extinction is exactly what we expect in an evolutionary scenario. those animals that are able to adapt to chaning environmental pressures go on to reproduce while those that cannot die out entirely.
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First of all, it's not inconceivable, if you believe in God, to believe that it was part of the plan instead of him being all like "Oh fuck, not again!" every time it happened.
Second, creation and evolution can coexist, and they do, unless ou live in Alabama (no disrespect to Alabama, I love their BBQ).
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May 13th, 2008, 02:05 AM
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First of all, it's not inconceivable, if you believe in God, to believe that it was part of the plan instead of him being all like "Oh fuck, not again!" every time it happened.
Second, creation and evolution can coexist, and they do, unless ou live in Alabama (no disrespect to Alabama, I love their BBQ).
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yes of course... however i think it fits an evolutionary scenario better... in any case the idea that extinction goes against evolutionary theory is ludicrous
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May 13th, 2008, 07:14 AM
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extinction in many instances, such as one of the Sabretooths possibilities, does show the inability to futher evolve and adapt as the environment slowly changed. It was just a quick example I guess I shouldnt have used but I really didnt think it would be interpretated on its technicality. I suppose I should have said Monkeys are still swinging from trees yet only one assumed family line became us. I just wanted to get away from the monkey thing and the Sabretooth and my silly cat that was actually annoying me at the time poped in my head. Your making more of it than I meant, but ol Sabretooth did fail in its continued evolution... this didnt mean I feel the earth and all its glory was created in 6 days. Todays antichrists get too worked up about whether someone believes in the ancient books or supreme being, so what if they do ? Its their prerogative and possibly the least harmful of human choices. It is possible however to not believe the ancient books and still say.... "WOW, the human species sticks out like a sore thumb by comparision to all others" and ponder how that came to be, which is exactly what science has done and may also have been the cause for the writing of the ancient books as well. But then we were not there were we ?
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May 13th, 2008, 07:21 AM
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is it spring in the US? ...such a bounty of herring.
uh oh, I can't defend my claim against evolution, better get them to talk about sabertooths, and the relevance of public interest in faith claims.
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May 13th, 2008, 07:54 AM
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I made no claim against evolution... unless you care to point out ?
Nor did I have any desire to talk about sabretooths, but nice try... considering how easily you are reeled into distractions
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May 13th, 2008, 09:03 AM
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is it spring in the US? ...such a bounty of herring.
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massive lolz
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May 13th, 2008, 02:15 PM
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extinction in many instances, such as one of the Sabretooths possibilities, does show the inability to futher evolve and adapt as the environment slowly changed. It was just a quick example I guess I shouldnt have used but I really didnt think it would be interpretated on its technicality. I suppose I should have said Monkeys are still swinging from trees yet only one assumed family line became us. I just wanted to get away from the monkey thing and the Sabretooth and my silly cat that was actually annoying me at the time poped in my head. Your making more of it than I meant, but ol Sabretooth did fail in its continued evolution... this didnt mean I feel the earth and all its glory was created in 6 days. Todays antichrists get too worked up about whether someone believes in the ancient books or supreme being, so what if they do ? Its their prerogative and possibly the least harmful of human choices. It is possible however to not believe the ancient books and still say.... "WOW, the human species sticks out like a sore thumb by comparision to all others" and ponder how that came to be, which is exactly what science has done and may also have been the cause for the writing of the ancient books as well. But then we were not there were we ?
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what? 
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May 13th, 2008, 02:35 PM
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what... what ?
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May 13th, 2008, 03:02 PM
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