"Ignorant America: Just How Stupid Are We?"

[razoredge]

regardless, the more god fearing society that this country once was held higher standards and ethics, there can be no denying this. Now ethics has been thrown out the window and problems have risen further in attitudes we can find in the work force, in schools and on the street. My point was that by blanently opposing religion as if with a point to prove has led to certain less than desirable attitudes within the country and has also pushed less than rational thinking Christians into these extremes that are also more prominant today.We need a middle of the road here somewhere. This includes being more reality driven on isssues of immigration, multiculturalism, globalism, corporate decisions, wall street dictatorship and all else for their own sake screw all the problems involved currently bitch slapping our asses into the ground.

As for schooling whats taught in the schools regarding the subjects at hand is not the problem, its in how its taught, if its kept interesting and applied for the average Tom and Jane or if its just a painfully long day with the only excitment happening unchecked due to liberalism while the kids are in the halls and rec areas. My personal experience has been that teachers have alot of nerve, being some of the highest paid individuals within communities yet with a part time job... who promote the very liberalism of "anything goes" and then bitch and moan about how they have no control over the kids in school.

Maybe they need to "take a time out" long enough to realize that "timeouts" accomplish nothing. Maybe they need to realize that we need to have zero tolerance for selectively applied discriminating zero tolerance. Maybe they need to realize that humans are human and no one is the same or responds the same. Maybe they need to realize they are boring as hell teaching only to the level of the book nerds.

These other countries that excede us in better educated children are strict countries who have zero tolerance for bullshit. Our country has zero tolerence for those who oppose bullshit. Those countries make thier children tow the line, in our country it is not popular to make your children tow the line, its all up to them as "individuals" and thus human error will take effect because its natural for children to have better priorities than having thier noses in the books 10 hours a day which is what it will take to meet the standards of these better educated countries.

Myself as a child I cant imagine the torture of having my nose stuck in some fucking series of text books 10 hours a day trying to decifer what they are trying to tell me let alone the importance of such stuff to the future of my life. For many it all becomes apparent years too late in a world that begins to sort its youth as expendable or brain resource at a young age.

Now we are into the beaurocratic aspect of education, the listing and record keeping well masked behind the front that they mean to do good by all the people of the country, and we swallow it whole, gulp gulp gulp.

[Badbird]

Originally Posted by Dakryn

What's neo con about leaving it up to local schools and parents about how to educate their kids?

That not them anyway. I was talking about School Boards down in Kansas and Texas, showing as explains. It's different in states. Liberal if you live in Massachusetts. Neo-con if you live in Texas.

[razoredge]

I need to get the fuck out of the blue states here on the east coast, I know that. The mid west is looking better all the time, just people going about thier daily lives not trying to change the world and everyones way of life.

[Badbird]

East coast is great. I love it!

[razoredge]

yeah, I did too when I had about 1.2 years of blissfull awareness

[Overwatch]

Originally Posted by Badbird

That not them anyway. I was talking about School Boards down in Kansas and Texas, showing as explains. It's different in states. Liberal if you live in Massachusetts. Neo-con if you live in Texas.

You still didn't explain what is neo-con about the school boards.

[monoxide_child]

Originally Posted by razoredge

I need to get the fuck out of the blue states here on the east coast, I know that. The mid west is looking better all the time, just people going about thier daily lives not trying to change the world and everyones way of life.

the reason why all those "radical social changes" happened in the 60's was people waking up and acknowledging that the 50's totally sucked

[Kara-Shehr]

Originally Posted by Einherjar86

Communism is worse than capitalism by far (in my personal opinion). Both systems become boggled down and fucked over because of manipulative, exploitative people who take advantage of the system.

Communism and Capitalism are like a double edged sword both have drawbacks and they both have their successes and failures. But I think Capitalism has had way more major successes.
Example: America

Communism looks great on paper and is a cute idea but is too easily corrupted and has allowed some of the most ruthless tyrants rise to power.
Example: Joseph Stalin

But in a more modern times we've seen communism make a comeback
Example: China, but they aren't trve commies and they've had some pretty fucked up shit going on over there. Economically they're kickin' everyone's ass but socially they suck balls.

[Badbird]

Let's just hope the Untied States will never become a communist country until I'm dead.

[Kara-Shehr]

I don't think America will ever go full on commie, we will probably set policies into motion that will flirt with it but never go all the way.

[Badbird]

Agree with that Educated Opinion. The USA has always been the anti commie country. We had the cold war with the USSR and we went to Vietnam to stop the spread of communism(which wasn't true if you look at the late 70s).

[monoxide_child]

Originally Posted by Educated Opinion

I don't think America will ever go full on commie, we will probably set policies into motion that will flirt with it but never go all the way.

how could anyone have suggested that america could ever go fully (or even partially) commie? where did that come from?

[Kara-Shehr]

You've never watched Fox News?

[monoxide_child]

Originally Posted by Educated Opinion

You've never watched Fox News?

what the freaking hell does fox news have to do with anything that was in this thread?

[Kara-Shehr]

Nevermind...

[Vimana]

Fox News is a bias source, not a news source.

[zerostatic]

An interesting topic, and I would like to contribute my opinion.

This is my sixth year as an educator in an urban middle school in a very poor neighborhood in Las Vegas. Sixty percent of the students at the school are hispanic. Sixty percent of the students receive either a free or reduced lunch, but nearly every student has a nicer cell phone than me. I teach seventh grade, but a majority of my students are reading at a 3rd-4th grade level. I don't even want to mention the 30 or so students with learning disabilities that I have in class that come with the extra headache of IEPs.

I only give textbooks out to the students who request them because I know that most of the students cannot read the text on their own. I hear from my colleagues that teach math that the students still count on their fingers for basic addition, subtraction, multiplication and division. 90% of the students cannot name one branch of American government, but they can name at least one judge on American Idol. If it isn't a video game or on a reality tv show the students probably have never heard of it.

I don't complain about my pay, but of course I would like more. You could pay me 10 times what I get now and I would not be able to produce better results than I have the past few years. I get paid for 7 hours of work a day for about 180-181 days a year. It comes out to about a $1 per hour per student. Could you find a babysitter for that rate?

[Kara-Shehr]

Originally Posted by Devasya Chāyā

Fox News is a bias source, not a news source.

I know.

[monoxide_child]

Originally Posted by Devasya Chāyā

Fox News is a bias source, not a news source.

fox news claimed that america would become comunist?!?!?!?!?

see... it's this kind of stupid crap that makes me not watch american news anymore

[Summerian]

It's a shame it says Intelligent (and mature) discussions only. If it didn't I could post this: