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Old February 16th, 2006, 11:45 AM   #126 (permalink)
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Harry Potter was probably one of the worst "fantasy" that I´ve ever read. I can´t understand what people like about it.
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Old February 17th, 2006, 04:06 AM   #127 (permalink)
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I recently had a discussion with a good friend of mine about Harry Potter. I've noticed that after the 3rd book the series has gone extremely downhill. There are books based on topics that were never mentioned through out any of the previous books and as though J.K. Rowling made up on the spot going "Okay I need material for 3 more books, lets go brain!"

Throughout the first 3 books there is almost little mention (if not none) of the Ministry and all that hoopla that the 5th book pretty much is completely about. I thought the 5th book was the worst... Until the 6th was released.

Lately her fame and publicity has gone through the roof while her quality of writing has gone the way of the shitter.
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Old February 17th, 2006, 01:08 PM   #128 (permalink)
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Money...but why not when people have not good taste.
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Old February 17th, 2006, 02:40 PM   #129 (permalink)
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I recently had a discussion with a good friend of mine about Harry Potter. I've noticed that after the 3rd book the series has gone extremely downhill. There are books based on topics that were never mentioned through out any of the previous books and as though J.K. Rowling made up on the spot going "Okay I need material for 3 more books, lets go brain!"

Throughout the first 3 books there is almost little mention (if not none) of the Ministry and all that hoopla that the 5th book pretty much is completely about. I thought the 5th book was the worst... Until the 6th was released.

Lately her fame and publicity has gone through the roof while her quality of writing has gone the way of the shitter.
I totally agree with you.

When I was younger (read: three years ago) I really loved Harry Potter. Book 1 till 4 are great. But now, well actually from the fifth book on it's like: she's just writing because she has to write and the quality is going downhill.
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Old February 17th, 2006, 04:47 PM   #130 (permalink)
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It was all mediocre writing. She never surpassed the realms of the pedestrian.
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Old February 17th, 2006, 06:56 PM   #131 (permalink)
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It was all mediocre writing. She never surpassed the realms of the pedestrian.
She has a wonderful imagination however, that has overcome her turgid, largely unnecessary prose. Ive only read the first book however. The movies are real treats.

If she would hire a decent editor, and cut half of her novels, she'd definately already be a classic adventure/fantasy/children novelist.
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Old February 17th, 2006, 07:07 PM   #132 (permalink)
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She has a wonderful imagination however, that has overcome her turgid, largely unnecessary prose. Ive only read the first book however. The movies are real treats.

If she would hire a decent editor, and cut half of her novels, she'd definately already be a classic adventure/fantasy/children novelist.
Perhaps. I just happen to be able to recall a million authors with as much imagination or even more so I find her endless worship to be a bit OTT.

The movies, I also fail to enjoy.
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Old February 17th, 2006, 11:31 PM   #133 (permalink)
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She disgraced the basilisk. Unforgivable.

I recently watched the first 3 movies. I didn't like the lack of imagination for a "fantasy" story. A three-headed dog guarding a passage. Hmm... something really familiar about this... And those prison guards in the third movie couldn't possibly look any more like those knights from LOTR (Nazghul, sp?). And of course the basilisk (which is NOT a damn snake), also not created by the author. Those look to be the three main beasts from the first three movies, and none are remotely original.

Maybe it's just my personal interest in cryptozoology/mythology/demonology, and I'm knit-picking, but I don't see any reason to shell out money for the books. I just think a fantasy story should be made of more creativity than piecing together used elements.
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Old February 18th, 2006, 03:34 AM   #134 (permalink)
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I just think a fantasy story should be made of more creativity than piecing together used elements.
I think so, I am a big fan of fantasy literature, but almost every piece of work is very schematic -> by Tolkien or Sapkowsky
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Old February 18th, 2006, 05:43 AM   #135 (permalink)
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I just think a fantasy story should be made of more creativity than piecing together used elements.
That is what happens when you come up with the idea "Ohhh a boy who goes to a magic school that no ordinary people can see" and then have NO story to back the idea.
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Old February 18th, 2006, 05:54 AM   #136 (permalink)
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Yes, yes, Harry sucks hardly.
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