Reaper Slip Editing Tutorial

AdamWathan · January 24th, 2010, 09:52 AM

Editing drums in Reaper using the slip editing method...

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Habsburgs · January 24th, 2010, 01:01 PM

Thanks Adam

Metaltastic · January 24th, 2010, 01:09 PM

Cool stuff dude, I've never messed with macros, but I can see how they could be really useful (I just need to think of how, exactly

) However, it sounds like you could use some of these

P-E · January 24th, 2010, 01:13 PM

Gonna be checking that out Adam, thanks a lot.

digitaldeath · January 24th, 2010, 01:14 PM

Must download this in work tomorrow and see how it compares to Beat Detective! Cheers Adam!

AdamWathan · January 24th, 2010, 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by digitaldeath

Must download this in work tomorrow and see how it compares to Beat Detective! Cheers Adam!

Well the process is completely different but the end result is exactly the same visually and aurally as Beat Detective, just a different way of getting there. A much faster, simpler, logical and less editing intensive way. With more control and no room for errors that are generated with a more automatic process.

The-Zeronaut · January 24th, 2010, 01:40 PM

EPIC.

the only thing that is missing is that you never hit "play" to hear the results XD
(could you post a little "before and after"clip?)

but seriously

THANKS A LOT!!

narcossintese · January 24th, 2010, 01:59 PM

AdamWathan · January 24th, 2010, 02:24 PM

I will make a clip later when I get back down to the studio, the example in the video isn't something that I can share so I will dig up one of my old sessions and make a quick clip.

AdamWathan · January 24th, 2010, 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Metaltastic

Cool stuff dude, I've never messed with macros, but I can see how they could be really useful (I just need to think of how, exactly

) However, it sounds like you could use some of these

Ahem, some people think my throaty morning rasp is sexy thank you very much.

EmilioArteaga · January 24th, 2010, 02:47 PM

wow, thank you SO much for posting a video of this. I was never very happy with the results of the "semi-automatic" drum editing in reaper. like, it's passable for me, but I think that this way might prove to be quicker, more efficient, and much more fruitful than the other way. +10000000000

question, though. what about if there is two hits at once. For example, say a drummer was playing a blastbeat with 32nd note kick hits, and 16th note snare hits. the kicks are off tempo, but the snares aren't. would you just quantize the snare, and just move the shit outta the kick drum hits?

Damian B · January 24th, 2010, 03:17 PM

Thanks for the tutorial! I am curious as to how the cymbals sound using this method; are there any artifacts?

PhilR · January 24th, 2010, 03:19 PM

Downloading, but very very slowly.

I don't know what web host you're using but their bandwidth sucks.

black.death · January 24th, 2010, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by PhilR

Downloading, but very very slowly.

I don't know what web host you're using but their bandwidth sucks.

i was getting 250 kb/s. so 15 mins to download is not bad for 1/4 gigabyte imo.

thanks for the upload adam. much appreciated.

SocialNumb · January 24th, 2010, 04:16 PM

I got it in 4 mins. Not to bad.

PhilR · January 24th, 2010, 04:21 PM

Ran a traceroute and there's a massive network bottleneck somewhere between my ISP and the web host, I was getting about 30kbps most of the time...

Oh well, try again tomorrow.

NeilOC · January 24th, 2010, 04:57 PM

Thanks for this!

AdamWathan · January 24th, 2010, 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EmilioArteaga

wow, thank you SO much for posting a video of this. I was never very happy with the results of the "semi-automatic" drum editing in reaper. like, it's passable for me, but I think that this way might prove to be quicker, more efficient, and much more fruitful than the other way. +10000000000

question, though. what about if there is two hits at once. For example, say a drummer was playing a blastbeat with 32nd note kick hits, and 16th note snare hits. the kicks are off tempo, but the snares aren't. would you just quantize the snare, and just move the shit outta the kick drum hits?

Yeah just like with any other drum editing method, if you have flammy kick/snare action going on you either need to edit them separately or just deal with it.

AdamWathan · January 24th, 2010, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Damian B

Thanks for the tutorial! I am curious as to how the cymbals sound using this method; are there any artifacts?

No not any more than there would be using any other editing method. This is EXACTLY like editing with Beat Detective, it's all based on the same principle. You are either shortening or repeating decay between hits and crossfading. Regardless of whether I use BD or this method, my crossfades end up in the exact same place and the audio is exactly the same thus producing results that sound identical.

Just try it out and play around, it's so brain dead easy and you will figure out how to deal with all of the little problem scenarios any time anyone edits drums pretty quickly.

Joey Sturgis has used this exact method for every album he's done in the past god knows how long and his results speak for themselves.

iamandy · January 24th, 2010, 06:00 PM

awesome tutorial, dude!

chdrummer · January 24th, 2010, 07:34 PM

This is so legit man. Thank you so fuckin much!

Metaltastic · January 24th, 2010, 07:44 PM

To be clear, this type of slip editing (sliding the audio around within the region) can't be done in PT, right? If so...gay

AdamWathan · January 24th, 2010, 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Metaltastic

To be clear, this type of slip editing (sliding the audio around within the region) can't be done in PT, right? If so...gay

Can not. If it could, I would be ecstatic. I wish I could code my own DAW. There is at least one major deal breaker for me in every single DAW. PT so far is the closest to being perfect... I've said it a hundred times though, as soon as Reaper has track based edit groups and tape-style editing like in PT, I am going right back.

Sloan · January 24th, 2010, 08:55 PM

do an sound clipz plz!

iamandy · January 24th, 2010, 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sloan

do an sound clipz plz!

+1

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EmilioArteaga Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 21	wow, thank you SO much for posting a video of this. I was never very happy with the results of the "semi-automatic" drum editing in reaper. like, it's passable for me, but I think that this way might prove to be quicker, more efficient, and much more fruitful than the other way. +10000000000 question, though. what about if there is two hits at once. For example, say a drummer was playing a blastbeat with 32nd note kick hits, and 16th note snare hits. the kicks are off tempo, but the snares aren't. would you just quantize the snare, and just move the shit outta the kick drum hits?

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January 24th, 2010, 07:44 PM	#22 (permalink)
Metaltastic The call of the couch Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: New York, USA Posts: 19,939	To be clear, this type of slip editing (sliding the audio around within the region) can't be done in PT, right? If so...gay __________________ Please check out my EP! (updated mix) Thread \| Myspace www.myspace.com/marcushedwig