Joey Sturgis FAQ - Page 5

Williamn · June 7th, 2011, 07:38 AM

Hey Joey !

I have seen quite a few people from bands you have recorded pop up now as a producer/studio owners (Of top of my head, atleast two guys from AA).. So I was wondering.
When you have a band in, are they allowed to see your usual chain for different things (lets say your most wanted podfarm guitar chain for an example) or do you kinda hide that to protect your "secrets" (like using a rough chain when you are tracking and then using your magic plugins when you are alone mixing) ?

Tl DR: Are you making any effort in hiding some of your workflow and secrets from the public eyes in RL ?

Fandus · June 7th, 2011, 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Williamn

Hey Joey !

I have seen quite a few people from bands you have recorded pop up now as a producer/studio owners (Of top of my head, atleast two guys from AA).. So I was wondering.
When you have a band in, are they allowed to see your usual chain for different things (lets say your most wanted podfarm guitar chain for an example) or do you kinda hide that to protect your "secrets" (like using a rough chain when you are tracking and then using your magic plugins when you are alone mixing) ?

Tl DR: Are you making any effort in hiding some of your workflow and secrets from the public eyes in RL ?

he did say somewhere that most of the magic happens after the band has packed up and left. he will track for x amount of weeks then mix a few bands worth of releases then repeat.

Seth Munson · June 7th, 2011, 10:23 AM

I would have to say it doesnt matter because its Joey's ears, room, setup, everything; not theirs.

Hell Nick does all of his guitar tracking, I know he has seen almost (if not everything) Joey has in his sessions and Nick still uses his 5150 for guitars on stuff he produces.
that alone should tell you that it doesnt matter what you know, have seen or even have the preset for, its what you can do with it and lets face it most of us cant make it what Joey does.

Williamn · June 7th, 2011, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Seth Munson

I would have to say it doesnt matter because its Joey's ears, room, setup, everything; not theirs.

Hell Nick does all of his guitar tracking, I know he has seen almost (if not everything) Joey has in his sessions and Nick still uses his 5150 for guitars on stuff he produces.
that alone should tell you that it doesnt matter what you know, have seen or even have the preset for, its what you can do with it and lets face it most of us cant make it what Joey does.

Yeah I know that, of course no one is gonna sound like joey just by knowing some presets.. but still there is some stuff you might want to keep to yourself and not make it easier for "joey clones".
Anyway just something im wondering since there is so many people who would almost kill for knowing his chains

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joeymusicguy · June 27th, 2011, 03:11 AM

there's actually a lot of templates and starting points used in the tracking stages. they all get tweaked in the master song (i always choose one song to beef the fuck out of, and use those settings for my basic settings on all the other songs and then i can just usually automate from there and tweak things out).

a lot of the real magic is setup in the project and just locked down. no one really gets to see any of it. probably not even nick. he's got too much time with the project window in view trying to make sure everything's on time and in tune to be looking around. but knowing the exact settings of everything doesnt really help anyone. because its very specific to the album, project / song. sure he could go home and plug in the numbers, but the theory or relativity with audio matters more. so unless his audio was identical to what was going on in that song, it wouldn't sound right.

joeymusicguy · June 27th, 2011, 03:15 AM

someone asked if i use a limiter on the post of my guitar chain. the answer is yes. compressors don't react fast enough to heavy distorted guitars. limiters are used to make the perceived volume higher.

GearMan2point0 · June 28th, 2011, 04:45 PM

I do the same exact thing and I agree 100%. I haven't found the "it" factor yet though. Which plugin would you recommend using Joey?

GearMan2point0 · July 1st, 2011, 09:10 AM

I actually limit the bass too! I feel that the same concept plays for bass.

ahjteam · July 26th, 2011, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by joeymusicguy "on recording drums"

I will record mic signals almost always

Question about this, just more out of curiocity... In general, in what angle do you put your snare and tom mics? Do you go like almost flat, at 45 degrees or even steeper? Also do you have any preference when it comes to mics?

mmmatthew · August 3rd, 2011, 12:44 PM

Just curious if Joey is still mixing on A7's these days. You still rockin those hoes Joey???

ahjteam · August 3rd, 2011, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by mmmatthew

Just curious if Joey is still mixing on A7's these days. You still rockin those hoes Joey???

The FAQ is here for a purpose...

"Doesn't use reference monitors, just Adam A7's, but sometimes reference listens in his car"

ahjteam · August 14th, 2011, 11:58 AM

Joey, how was your summer vacation, what did you do?

Do you want me to compile a list of the questions people have been asking or do you want to look for them yourself?

ahjteam · October 5th, 2011, 05:14 AM

edit: The list of questions in one post:

1)

In general, in what angle do you put your snare and tom mics? Do you go like almost flat, at 45 degrees or even steeper? Also do you have any preference when it comes to mics?

2)

When you have a band in, are they allowed to see your usual chain for different things (lets say your most wanted podfarm guitar chain for an example) or do you kinda hide that to protect your "secrets" (like using a rough chain when you are tracking and then using your magic plugins when you are alone mixing) ?

Tl DR: Are you making any effort in hiding some of your workflow and secrets from the public eyes in RL ?

3)

how perfectly do the guitarists play / do you make them play the songs?
do you lean more towards just letting them track it and you edit more, or do you try to make it as perfect as possible for minimal editing?

4)

What kind of bass guitars do you prefer for tracking (material, pickups, brands and models etc)?

Nico_pitty · October 5th, 2011, 07:42 AM

i read that joey put his guitars in cayman DI-box and the into rme interface 800...but how cani he run pod farm if there's no line6 interface between his guitar and rme interface?

DanLights · October 5th, 2011, 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Nico_pitty

i read that joey put his guitars in cayman DI-box and the into rme interface 800...but how cani he run pod farm if there's no line6 interface between his guitar and rme interface?

I think you meant Countryman DI. And I believe Podfarm is also sold separately from the hardware.

Nico_pitty · October 5th, 2011, 07:47 AM

yeah...but according to the site..you can't use pod farm without a line 6 interface(Gx,Ux1,Ux2,etc.....) maybe i'm wrong...

_Jeff_ · October 5th, 2011, 07:55 AM

Dan's right, Pod Farm doesn't need hardware anymore.

Nico_pitty · October 5th, 2011, 08:14 AM

I have a presounus mobile...so if i put my guitar into presonul mobile i can run pod farm?? good news...i'm not very informed!! ahahaha

_Jeff_ · October 5th, 2011, 08:23 AM

yea it should work

Nico_pitty · October 5th, 2011, 08:24 AM

Great....thnx for news jeff!

ahjteam · October 5th, 2011, 05:34 PM

yup, you can buy ilok license for podfarm

Nico_pitty · October 19th, 2011, 06:00 PM

Guys Joey use impulses? and what vst to use em??

olif8 · October 20th, 2011, 10:56 AM

Please go away.

setyouranchor · October 20th, 2011, 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nico_pitty

Guys Joey use impulses? and what vst to use em??

SEARCH. READ. FUCK.

DanLights · October 20th, 2011, 01:58 PM

Rather fuck first, that way you'll do the rest much more relaxed and patiently

Oh praise the age of instant gratification we live in, how have raised our children

June 7th, 2011, 07:38 AM	#101 (permalink)
Williamn Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Ireland - Denmark Posts: 970	Hey Joey ! I have seen quite a few people from bands you have recorded pop up now as a producer/studio owners (Of top of my head, atleast two guys from AA).. So I was wondering. When you have a band in, are they allowed to see your usual chain for different things (lets say your most wanted podfarm guitar chain for an example) or do you kinda hide that to protect your "secrets" (like using a rough chain when you are tracking and then using your magic plugins when you are alone mixing) ? Tl DR: Are you making any effort in hiding some of your workflow and secrets from the public eyes in RL ? Last edited by Williamn : June 7th, 2011 at 08:23 AM.

June 27th, 2011, 03:11 AM	#105 (permalink)
joeymusicguy Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: indiana Posts: 3,767	there's actually a lot of templates and starting points used in the tracking stages. they all get tweaked in the master song (i always choose one song to beef the fuck out of, and use those settings for my basic settings on all the other songs and then i can just usually automate from there and tweak things out). a lot of the real magic is setup in the project and just locked down. no one really gets to see any of it. probably not even nick. he's got too much time with the project window in view trying to make sure everything's on time and in tune to be looking around. but knowing the exact settings of everything doesnt really help anyone. because its very specific to the album, project / song. sure he could go home and plug in the numbers, but the theory or relativity with audio matters more. so unless his audio was identical to what was going on in that song, it wouldn't sound right. __________________ http://www.joeysturgis.com/ - Custom Drum Samples and Production Fx Reaper Users: Vote for this http://forum.cockos.com/project.php?issueid=1242

June 27th, 2011, 03:15 AM	#106 (permalink)
joeymusicguy Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: indiana Posts: 3,767	someone asked if i use a limiter on the post of my guitar chain. the answer is yes. compressors don't react fast enough to heavy distorted guitars. limiters are used to make the perceived volume higher. __________________ http://www.joeysturgis.com/ - Custom Drum Samples and Production Fx Reaper Users: Vote for this http://forum.cockos.com/project.php?issueid=1242

June 28th, 2011, 04:45 PM	#107 (permalink)
GearMan2point0 Musician/Engineer Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 451	I do the same exact thing and I agree 100%. I haven't found the "it" factor yet though. Which plugin would you recommend using Joey? __________________

July 1st, 2011, 09:10 AM	#108 (permalink)
GearMan2point0 Musician/Engineer Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 451	I actually limit the bass too! I feel that the same concept plays for bass. __________________

August 3rd, 2011, 12:44 PM	#110 (permalink)
mmmatthew Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Houston, †X Posts: 56	Still using A7's? Just curious if Joey is still mixing on A7's these days. You still rockin those hoes Joey???

August 14th, 2011, 11:58 AM	#112 (permalink)
ahjteam Anssi Tenhunen Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Virrat/Helsinki, Finland Posts: 9,399	Joey, how was your summer vacation, what did you do? Do you want me to compile a list of the questions people have been asking or do you want to look for them yourself? __________________ Check out my youtube channel for audio production tutorials http://www.youtube.com/ahjteam http://soundcloud.com/ahjteam/sets/debut-album

October 5th, 2011, 05:14 AM	#113 (permalink)
ahjteam Anssi Tenhunen Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Virrat/Helsinki, Finland Posts: 9,399	edit: The list of questions in one post: 1) In general, in what angle do you put your snare and tom mics? Do you go like almost flat, at 45 degrees or even steeper? Also do you have any preference when it comes to mics? 2) When you have a band in, are they allowed to see your usual chain for different things (lets say your most wanted podfarm guitar chain for an example) or do you kinda hide that to protect your "secrets" (like using a rough chain when you are tracking and then using your magic plugins when you are alone mixing) ? Tl DR: Are you making any effort in hiding some of your workflow and secrets from the public eyes in RL ? 3) how perfectly do the guitarists play / do you make them play the songs? do you lean more towards just letting them track it and you edit more, or do you try to make it as perfect as possible for minimal editing? 4) What kind of bass guitars do you prefer for tracking (material, pickups, brands and models etc)? __________________ Check out my youtube channel for audio production tutorials http://www.youtube.com/ahjteam http://soundcloud.com/ahjteam/sets/debut-album Last edited by ahjteam : October 5th, 2011 at 05:22 AM.

October 5th, 2011, 07:42 AM	#114 (permalink)
Nico_pitty Nick Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Milan Posts: 133	i read that joey put his guitars in cayman DI-box and the into rme interface 800...but how cani he run pod farm if there's no line6 interface between his guitar and rme interface? __________________ Hey Guys! Contact me for: Recording Mixing Mastering Editing Contacts: nico_pitty@hotmail.it

October 5th, 2011, 07:47 AM	#116 (permalink)
Nico_pitty Nick Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Milan Posts: 133	yeah...but according to the site..you can't use pod farm without a line 6 interface(Gx,Ux1,Ux2,etc.....) maybe i'm wrong... __________________ Hey Guys! Contact me for: Recording Mixing Mastering Editing Contacts: nico_pitty@hotmail.it

October 5th, 2011, 07:55 AM	#117 (permalink)
_Jeff_ Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 587	Dan's right, Pod Farm doesn't need hardware anymore. __________________ SAMPLES HERE Kicks now as low as $4.00 each!! Chimaira Tom samples HERE (.WAV+.GOG)

October 5th, 2011, 08:14 AM	#118 (permalink)
Nico_pitty Nick Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Milan Posts: 133	I have a presounus mobile...so if i put my guitar into presonul mobile i can run pod farm?? good news...i'm not very informed!! ahahaha __________________ Hey Guys! Contact me for: Recording Mixing Mastering Editing Contacts: nico_pitty@hotmail.it

October 5th, 2011, 08:23 AM	#119 (permalink)
_Jeff_ Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 587	yea it should work __________________ SAMPLES HERE Kicks now as low as $4.00 each!! Chimaira Tom samples HERE (.WAV+.GOG)

October 5th, 2011, 08:24 AM	#120 (permalink)
Nico_pitty Nick Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Milan Posts: 133	Great....thnx for news jeff! __________________ Hey Guys! Contact me for: Recording Mixing Mastering Editing Contacts: nico_pitty@hotmail.it

October 5th, 2011, 05:34 PM	#121 (permalink)
ahjteam Anssi Tenhunen Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Virrat/Helsinki, Finland Posts: 9,399	yup, you can buy ilok license for podfarm __________________ Check out my youtube channel for audio production tutorials http://www.youtube.com/ahjteam http://soundcloud.com/ahjteam/sets/debut-album

October 19th, 2011, 06:00 PM	#122 (permalink)
Nico_pitty Nick Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Milan Posts: 133	Guys Joey use impulses? and what vst to use em?? __________________ Hey Guys! Contact me for: Recording Mixing Mastering Editing Contacts: nico_pitty@hotmail.it

October 20th, 2011, 01:58 PM	#125 (permalink)
DanLights A Venezuelan in Europe Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: A Coruña, Spain Posts: 6,670	Re: FAQ Rather fuck first, that way you'll do the rest much more relaxed and patiently Oh praise the age of instant gratification we live in, how have raised our children __________________ http://www.facebook.com/adintra Weekly Favorites - Currently Listening