joey no longer recording??

[davidcortese]

A member of a band who went to joey for 2 cds told me that joey is no longer going to record bands anymore he is just going to produce them. I hope that's not true but he has always said he hating recording and was more of a producer. i wonder if he is just getting bored of it because his latest stuff sound like he just stop caring about things and didn't polish them as well as he used too idk what do you guys think i prefer his old recording better

[shaggysi0]

As I understand it from general observation of posts on here and following Joey's twitter:-

Joey has stated on this forum already that he is really only interested in the producing/mixing side of things. He hates tracking guitars and bass and therefore Nick Samson takes care of this side of things for him. JeffTD does his drum edits. Joey is involved in all other parts of the process.

He has said a few times on Twitter that he doesn't want to do audio engineering for the rest of his life. There have been a lot of references to game developing and I believe he is working on something like this inbetween studio work. He has a girlfriend, and has said he wants to spend time enjoying a bit of life. Don't blame the guy honestly, there's more to life than work.

That said, I personally don't feel Joey is turning out any lesser quality of productions than he did in the beginning. I am impressed with each new CD he turns out and even if the music itself isn't amazing the productions are consistently good and this is the point - he has honed his craft well enough to deliver these consistently good productions. The guy knows he can deliver this even if its not 100% the main focus of his life anymore.

Just my 2c

[Tommy Evans]

I agree with the OP, I think his last few releases were absolutely half assed. Atilla sounded like doodoo and Zuess' Emmure mixes were more satisfying. Sorry bros.

[OneDaySky]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Tommy dude, where you been? You getting my PM's?

[Tommy Evans]

Yes I have! Sorry I haven't gotten back. I'll be able to hook you up with everything you need within the next couple days. Been outta town since I PM'd you last XP

[K Odell]

I dont get the "halfassed" thing. I think his work gets better and better.

[tempe]

I honestly quite like the Attila record! Not a huge fan of Speaker of the Dead though. To be honest guys, tracking sucks and if you're at a stage in your career where you don't have to do it anymore, that's fantastic.

[Tommy Evans]

TBH the "half assed" thing probably comes from being blown away by him before enough times to expect something groundbreaking (or at least something interesting) on every release. I personally have been aurally spoiled by joey and when I start to hear the same stuff I heard a few releases ago, I tune out cuz there's nothing new to learn from. Atilla seemed lackluster and I would've thought it came from a Joey clone if I hadn't already known he did it. And the SOTD mix just doesn't do it for me, Emmure is not a 'joey band' in my eyes. I haven't heard STTG yet so I can't comment on it.


/rant

[Tommy Evans]

I respect everyone's opinions, but I also have my own.

[timislegend]

joey's "half assed" is everyone else's full throttle.

[oroinvictus]

Originally Posted by timislegend

joey's "half assed" is everyone else's full throttle.

Thanks, dude.

[outbreak525]

I've listened to Slave to the Game and it's nothing special.
Why these bands are so popular blows my mind.

[timislegend]

Thanks, dude.

[Dustin Morrison]

If this is true then maybe he'll post some of his newest techniques and plugs he's using. Maybe a peak into his mastering methods. :-D

[Tommy Evans]

Originally Posted by timislegend

Holy shit I LOL'd!

[shaggysi0]

Originally Posted by Dustin Morrison

If this is true then maybe he'll post some of his newest techniques and plugs he's using. Maybe a peak into his mastering methods. :-D

I doubt it. As has been said before, even if you knew how he did it it likely wouldn't be any good for your song/mix.

For me, I do use Joey's mixes as a reference but I know my stuff won't sound anything close to how his does and I don't use Pod Farm at all. But then, at the moment I'm only doing this for fun and interest and learning so I'm not bothered if I do/don't sound like Joey or anyone else. Joey's productions, the minimal amount of gear he uses, and being ITB, was what actually inspired me to read up on all this stuff and try to push my shitty song ideas to the next level with my own shitty, basic, limited gear.

[oroinvictus]

Originally Posted by timislegend

It's cute that you used an image to try and get the last word like this is 4chan or something, but you really don't need to go out of your way to insult everyone. I don't try to live up to strugis, and many other people don't as well, but I do realize we are currently on the sturgis forum and I have no problem with the way he does things. Please speak for yourself is all I'm asking.

[timislegend]

"no! ...i'm an adult and i don't have to think or do anything!" - michael scott

[Dustin Morrison]

Originally Posted by shaggysi0

I doubt it. As has been said before, even if you knew how he did it it likely wouldn't be any good for your song/mix.

Right.... this is a given. Any guy worth his salt in mixing knows this.

But I'm always experimenting with different things and it would be really cool to know what he prefers so you can try and fit it into your own stuff. I say this just because I know Joey's mastering is better than mine so there is room to learn on my part. It's kinda like knowing how much of each ingredient to put into a cake. Yours probably wont be as good as grandma's..... but at least if you know how she does it and what she uses then you're in way better shape.

P.S. Not calling Joey a grandma. hahahahaha

[shaggysi0]

Yeah man. Sorry if I came across too sharp, wasn't intended. I would honestly love to be a fly on the wall for a Joey mixing/mastering session. I'm sure I'd learn tons from it, but there's always gonna be a big chance where I'm working on one of my own tracks and I'd be all like oh yeah I'll try "that thing Joey did" only to find it makes my mix sound fucking terrible, which in turn leads to depression and JOEY Y UR PRESETS NO MAKE ME SOUND BR00TZ? posts but yea I'm an experimenter too. Reading and experimenting is how I even learned ANYTHING.

[corybrunnemann]

Originally Posted by K Odell

I dont get the "halfassed" thing. I think his work gets better and better.

Agreed Kyle! Oh you mean he's evolved and is getting more natural and you miss the fakeness of the old sound? I don't, I this his newest stuff is absolutely spot on!! And honestly, records he mixes and masters are gunna be the Joey sound anyway, he just doesn't have to track it. Aka, win!

[Backe]

the thing with joey is that he could still turn everything around in the recording/tracking part of his career by moving around different studios, exploring the possibilites of tracking live good sounding drums on fat consoles and cranking guitar amps to eleven and doing stuff real for once. doing different stuff is what has made me want to produce and mix bands forever. music is always an equally big part of my life, but the genres change like the seasons. i too would be sick of recording breakdown abusing generic bands all day long using the same drum samples and software with nothing to show for it but a forum of kids asking for "how do joey pod farm preset? ¯\(°_o)/¯". but if i was jim scott today, i could just kick back and say "damn, that californication album those red hot chili peppers boys did sure was a piece of music history and always will be, thank god i'll always know i had a part in making it all happen until the day i die".

[Tommy Evans]

I've always wanted to hear a Joey record without samples/pod. More importantly the pod thing. Even if it sucked i'd respect him more for doing it and putting it out there.

[[UEAK]Clowd]

I'm pretty sure he has more to show for it than "a forum of kids asking for how do joey pod farm preset? ¯\(°_o)/¯" lol.....

[K Odell]

Originally Posted by Tommy Evans

I've always wanted to hear a Joey record without samples/pod. More importantly the pod thing. Even if it sucked i'd respect him more for doing it and putting it out there.

Well this is still always a possibility. He has never said he wouldnt use a real amp. Its just always been about what has worked best and podfarm so far has been it. I will say that any albums I do I will be providing both dis and reamped tones. So like I said you never know.