Lost...

[rockyracoon]

Originally Posted by sh0kr0k

And look up the names Faraday & Hume. As soon as Daniel talked about electromagnetism, I laughed out loud!

Most of the character's names carry some sort of significance, which certainly adds a bit of depth to the storyline. Recently, that creepy black guy that visited Hurley in the mental hospital, last name Abaddon. His name, shockingly, has to do with demons, destruction, etc.


Additionally, regarding many of the previous comments/questions by some... is everyone aware that seasons 1-3 are all available on dvd?

[No-Mercy]

yep, and i have them all.

as far as names go i have some stuff i had gathered and saved...some will seem as more of a stretch than others.

Sayid: might be from author Edward Said. spelled different, pronounced the same. Many of the ways Sayid talks (especially in previous seasons referring to the others) is extremely similar to Edward's work on Orientalism. Also, Edward focused most of his work on assumptions and presumed facts about those of Middle East decent. this is right on- sayid has been judged in the show previously due to his origin.

John Locke: is actually the exact same name/spelling as a 16th century philosopher. he is reffered to as one of the most important "elightenment" thinkers, and is known for his work about the mind and personal identity. some same qualities yea?

Desmond David Hume: the 17th century saw a philosopher named David Hume, pronounced and written the same. He was known for rejecting the belief that the human mind was a minture version of a divine mind. He didn't believe in miracles. He was a utilitariast, and was first to coin the term. This means, he believes in the "ends justify the means" theory.
This philosopher was influeneced heavily by previously mentioned philosopher John Locke...

Daniel Faraday: Michael Faraday was a chemist and physicist in the 18th century. His works were centered on electromagnetism and electrochemisty. He also worked with magnetic fields surrounded objects. sounds familiar...

Miles Straume: some think it sounds like Maelstrom; a powerful tidal current or a large, "trapping" body of water...

[sh0kr0k]

Maybe the returning character is Mr Echo. I would like to see him back on the show, his back-story was amazing and he only "died" from whatever that black fog was (Jacob maybe?)

No-Mercy, good ideas on those names! Post more if you've got 'em!

[No-Mercy]

ha thanks. im working on some, but those are the only ones that really might not just be some crazy kid desperately trying to figure something out before the people he watches the show with.

ill post anymore that get solid. the only reason i knew the first 3 so quickly is because i just got done a philosophy course.

[rockyracoon]

Originally Posted by No-Mercy

ha thanks. im working on some, but those are the only ones that really might not just be some crazy kid desperately trying to figure something out before the people he watches the show with.

ill post anymore that get solid. the only reason i knew the first 3 so quickly is because i just got done a philosophy course.

Some very good info, Mercy. Personally, I find Jack Shepherds name to be the most telling. Undoubtedly, the amount of symbolism in Lost can get overwhelming at times, for me at least. I believe that we will come to find out there are many subtleties peppered into the dialogue between Locke and Ben that will prove extremly interesting.


I'd never actually checked on the relevance of Sayid, so that's very cool. I'll have to look more into that. Yet another reason to revisit seasons 1 and 2.


Oh yeah, it seemed that it was made somewhat clear that Ben has at least some influence on the smoke monster...interesting...

[No-Mercy]

yea. i mean the most obvious relation for Jack to me is that even though his name is spelled win an a (shephArd), it still symbolizes that hes the leader who controls/maintains the rest of the, "flock".

the only other one im looking into might be getting somehwere is Katherine Anne (kate) Austen.
there was a novelist Jane Austen whos neice is Catherine Anne. that may just be an odd coincidence because i dont really see any similarities with their views/ideas, etc.

-edit-
Jacob possibly any relation to the biblical jacob? i just looked up alot, even going as far to think the relationship between biblical jacob and his brother esau might be similar to the relationship of ben linus and jacob (from lost). i just came up with contradictions though, probably because half of my sources are stupid people writing un-intelligent scrap on a website.

[sh0kr0k]

Originally Posted by rockyracoon

I believe that we will come to find out there are many subtleties peppered into the dialogue between Locke and Ben that will prove extremly interesting.

Yes, watching the rerun with footnotes each week is very helpful with figuring out some of the subtle details that truly make a difference.

Originally Posted by No-Mercy

it still symbolizes that hes the leader who controls/maintains the rest of the, "flock".

That's one of the first comparisons that was made and so far it holds up. I laughed when Sawyer said something like, "Baaaa! Just like sheep."

[No-Mercy]

hahahah yea that was good. i dont know about this new episode. im really getting sick of people letting Ben off the hook everytime they have him in a crunch spot. I hope sawyers kicks his ass.

[sh0kr0k]

Right!?! And maybe Sawyer will take his shirt off while he does it! At least Ben doesn't have anymore aces up his sleeve... or so he says. But now to figure out why Penny's dad told his boat to never answer her calls for Desmond. One thing ya'll don't know if you didn't watch the repeat of the time travel episode is that there is something very special about the ship who's Captain's Log was being auctioned off and Penny's dad won... on top of that, "the contents of this book have never been revealed to anyone outside of the immediate family.." So only the people on the ship and Penny's dad know what's in that book, which is undoubtedly secrets about the island.

[rockyracoon]

Originally Posted by sh0kr0k

Right!?!But now to figure out why Penny's dad told his boat to never answer her calls for Desmond. One thing ya'll don't know if you didn't watch the repeat of the time travel episode is that there is something very special about the ship who's Captain's Log was being auctioned off and Penny's dad won... on top of that, "the contents of this book have never been revealed to anyone outside of the immediate family.." So only the people on the ship and Penny's dad know what's in that book, which is undoubtedly secrets about the island.

I think he told the boat not to answer Penny's calls because he wants Desmond to remain on the island. Additionally, when we saw Ben's surveillance footage of Mr. Widmore, we were informed of his desire to locate and exploit the island. I'm guessing he'd even hurt his own daughter to do that.


About the ship, call The Black Rock. For starters, it's on the island which is crazy. But also, how the hell did the Captain's Log find its way off the island after it crashed there? I'm interested to know what Ben knows about the Black Rock.