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Old March 15th, 2008, 12:54 PM   #101 (permalink)
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YOu mustve missed Bens line where he said 'youd be surprised what any man would do to get his son back'

No, didn't miss that. It just doesn't change the fact that Michael, among other shitty things, murdered two people who did nothing to him in attempt at getting his son back. After Walt's abduction, Michael was a hot-headed loose canon who could not be reasoned with. From his point of view, he did what he needed to do. From everyone else's perspectives, his word may not mean shit. He may very well help Des and Sayid, but I guarantee Sayid won't blindly trust what may just be a wolf in sheep's clothing.
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Old March 15th, 2008, 11:12 PM   #102 (permalink)
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I thought the episode was pretty sweet. Assuming they held true to the last of the Oceanic 6 being revealed in this past episode, I guess they are counting Aaron as one of the 6. So we've got Jack, Kate, Hurley, Aaron, Sun, and Sayid. Interesting.
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Old March 16th, 2008, 02:30 AM   #103 (permalink)
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I thought the episode was pretty sweet. Assuming they held true to the last of the Oceanic 6 being revealed in this past episode, I guess they are counting Aaron as one of the 6. So we've got Jack, Kate, Hurley, Aaron, Sun, and Sayid. Interesting.


It was a little vague, because Jin certainly may have gotten off the island and died after he returned home, making him part of the Oceanic 6. No doubt they'll keep us wondering that for a long time.
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Old March 16th, 2008, 07:32 AM   #104 (permalink)
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Jin didn't get off the island. His scenes were a flashback (the shop owner alluded to it being the year of the dragon, the last of which was 2000). Also, when Sun and Hurley went to his grave, the Date of Death on it was Sept. 22, 2004 (the date the plane crashed on the island). We can assume that he's still stuck on the island or dead, but never made it off.
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Old March 17th, 2008, 10:08 AM   #105 (permalink)
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Jin didn't get off the island. His scenes were a flashback (the shop owner alluded to it being the year of the dragon, the last of which was 2000). Also, when Sun and Hurley went to his grave, the Date of Death on it was Sept. 22, 2004 (the date the plane crashed on the island). We can assume that he's still stuck on the island or dead, but never made it off.

I understand it was a flashback. It just seems strange, is all. Why would Sun allow his headstone to list Sept. 22, 2004 as his DOD, when she knows damn well that he didn't die(if he is dead) in the crash? My only idea is that it has something to do with this big "secret" that Jack and Hurley have talked about keeping quiet. Based on Jin's headstone and DOD, it must be important to maintain that everyone else died in the crash.


Perhaps the last member of the Oceanic 6 was in the coffin.
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Old March 17th, 2008, 10:27 AM   #106 (permalink)
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Perhaps the last member of the Oceanic 6 was in the coffin.
That was my first thought. Problem is, when Jack and Kate were in the room with the coffin there was no one there. So it either was "after the services" or the person in the coffin was either not liked (i.e. Ben) or not known (which now could be Jin), then again I assumed that Sun was in Korea and Hurley visited her there. So why would there be a service in the States?
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Old March 17th, 2008, 11:59 AM   #107 (permalink)
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I understand it was a flashback. It just seems strange, is all. Why would Sun allow his headstone to list Sept. 22, 2004 as his DOD, when she knows damn well that he didn't die(if he is dead) in the crash? My only idea is that it has something to do with this big "secret" that Jack and Hurley have talked about keeping quiet. Based on Jin's headstone and DOD, it must be important to maintain that everyone else died in the crash.


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If the headstone said sept 22 2004 wouldnt that imply he died on the island?
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Old March 17th, 2008, 12:44 PM   #108 (permalink)
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If the headstone said sept 22 2004 wouldnt that imply he died on the island?
Not really ... that's the day the plane crashed, not the day Jin died. On the surface he's been alive for more than 90 days after the crash, so if he were to die in the show next week it would give him a death date around Christmas. My guess is that the guy is still alive ... just stuck on the island with a lot of other people. Sun is following the cover story she was given to insure her rescue from the island.

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Old March 17th, 2008, 01:04 PM   #109 (permalink)
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Well I know he didnt die on the crash, I didnt say that, but if he came back for the rescue Sept. 22nd wouldn't really fit :P
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Old March 17th, 2008, 01:44 PM   #110 (permalink)
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Not really ... that's the day the plane crashed, not the day Jin died. On the surface he's been alive for more than 90 days after the crash, so if he were to die in the show next week it would give him a death date around Christmas. My guess is that the guy is still alive ... just stuck on the island with a lot of other people. Sun is following the cover story she was given to insure her rescue from the island.

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Well, we THINK he's been alive for 90 days... remember, they've introduced the whole idea about how the island operates in a sort of time vacuum... from the missle/probe thing that Faraday launched to the helicopter seemingly being gone for three days to the people on the island when it had only been gone for a couple hours. If there is one thing I'm sure of about this show... It is the fact that I'm not SURE about anything.
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Old March 17th, 2008, 02:15 PM   #111 (permalink)
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Well, we THINK he's been alive for 90 days... remember, they've introduced the whole idea about how the island operates in a sort of time vacuum... from the missle/probe thing that Faraday launched to the helicopter seemingly being gone for three days to the people on the island when it had only been gone for a couple hours. If there is one thing I'm sure of about this show... It is the fact that I'm not SURE about anything.
Yeah .. I was thinking about that as I typed my reply ... that's why I said "on the surface". The title of the show is fitting most times. I still enjoy it though .. clearly my favorite show.

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