Yes we can. 2/12/08

[rockyracoon]

Hillary gets my vote, in hopes that if she does win Bill will actually be the one running the show(behind the scenes of course.) Kinda like how Nancy Reagan did for Ronald, except done well.

[TheWhisper]

Originally Posted by Emerald Sword

I would've preferred Mitt Romney. I'm a conservative and I don't apologize for it.

I'm gonna write in in Ronaldus Magnus as a protest vote!

[TheWhisper]

Originally Posted by nailz

Jesus people. Stop taking everything so seriously.

NO!

[Pellaz]

Originally Posted by freakchylde

And how does not voting for Obama give 9.11 the win? He's for immediate redeployment and nuking our ally (however weak that ally might be) in that area. He has no clue about the military and probably would have had the same nearsight that the last few POTUS have had. So what positive attributes does he have for the office, besides an overwhelming dose of wishful thinking?

Oh yeah, and Congressperson who uses the terms "garnish" and "wages" in the same sentence, needs to be flogged mercilessly for an hour, and have his/her wages taken away for a year.

Concur. Obama is likeable, connects well with people, has that brash rockstar appeal...and is the second-worst choice to lead the US (and the Western world) right now.

Whether we like it or not, Western mores and society are firmly in the targets of Muslim fundamentalists around the world. It is not just "the U.S. versus them," either: in its broadcasts on al-Jazeera, Al-queda has stated its opposition to "the throne of Rome," which is a reference to all Western democracies and the Western world.

Barack Hussein Obama says we should use diplomacy with them. He says that we should negotiate more. Sorry, I disagree.
I also disagree with most of his domestic policy....as a federal employee, the prospect of nationalizing 12% of the American economy under government control frightens me to no end. The US Government can't do ANYTHING cheaply or efficiently, so why anyone would want some officious government bureaucrat to determine when and how you receive health-care is beyond me. Ultimately, it will be the worst boondoggle of the early 21st Century.

Originally Posted by Kenso

i dont see how anyone could say ron paul is not the best choice for the president. obama is better than mccain and clinton, but those three all suck on extensive levels.

I'm a small-ell libertarian, and I like a lot of Ron Paul's ideas, but the simple fact is that he is wayy too soft on global terrorism. Epic fail. Plus, his supporters are his most embarassing 'asset.'

Originally Posted by adaher

Except he didn't say that. He said we could stay in Iraq that long if the situation became like that of Germany or South Korea. John McCain is no idiot. He said back in 2007 that if the surge didn't work and the Iraqi government made no progress that we'd need to look at ending our involvement. He knows what war is. He's not going to make an endless commitment. But he won't give it all up as quickly as his opponents either.

+1 for his honesty. And besides, the surge has been working.

I'm not a huge McCain fan, but when you look at the global picture, he is the clear winner.


Oh......I can't envision any circumstance whatsoever where I would vote for Hillary. She is as phoney as a $3 bill and astonishingly mean-spirited. (Ask me about the Clintons' move from the Arkansas governor's mansion back to Hope sometime....)
I cannot support compulsory wage garnishments to join a socialized healthcare system (you'd have no choice but to join under her plan), and I don't like her plan to levy a 'one-time' 15% tax on every outstanding retirement-plan balance to 'shore up' Social Security. If the system is broken, fix it, don't throw more of our hard-earned retirement money at it.


In the end, I'll probably hold my nose and vote for McCain.

[Diamond45]

Sorry, none of the candidates (Republican or Democrat) represent my views. I'll probably be voting against Klinton or Osama during the election... if you want to call it that.

[Pellaz]

Originally Posted by Diamond45

Sorry, none of the candidates (Republican or Democrat) represent my views.

Well, that's pretty much the case with me in every election, since I'm a small-ell libertarian.

From the GOP, I'd borrow a strong national defense, more of a fiscally conservative attitude, reduced taxes (or the Fair Tax, despite the fact that it would cost me my job), etc.

From the Democrats, I'd borrow their more socially liberal attitude, their alleged tolerance and diversity, etc.


There really isn't a perfect hole for my political peg.

I'd be a card-carrying member of the Libertarian Party......except that they're all freaks or windbags.
(Except for my friends who are involved in the party....they're cool. But those others.......)

[nailz]

Originally Posted by Diamond45

Sorry, none of the candidates (Republican or Democrat) represent my views. I'll probably be voting against Klinton or Osama during the election... if you want to call it that.

Why don't you just not vote? And, whenever I hear these "not my views" thing, I always wonder what those views are.

[Diamond45]

Originally Posted by nailz

Why don't you just not vote? And, whenever I hear these "not my views" thing, I always wonder what those views are.

I took one of those online "tests" a while back were you can find the candidate that shares your views on pressing issues. I forget who the test found to be my candidate, but it wasn't any of the front runners. If I find the test again, I'll post the URL and take it again to see what those issues were that I chose (it was something like 35 questions).

[Diamond45]

Originally Posted by Pellaz

Well, that's pretty much the case with me in every election, since I'm a small-ell libertarian.

I'm more of a moderate myself. But I really hate BOTH large parties right now. Only in America where we have two dominate political parties. Most countries have three or four parties. Canada has several.

[shaq]

Originally Posted by Diamond45

I took one of those online "tests" a while back were you can find the candidate that shares your views on pressing issues. I forget who the test found to be my candidate, but it wasn't any of the front runners. If I find the test again, I'll post the URL and take it again to see what those issues were that I chose (it was something like 35 questions).

Tests like that are usually a good way to get an overview of things. If you're using that entirely as your basis on who you vote for, you don't deserve to be voting in the first place, or even participate in a real discussion of the topic. Pick up a newspaper, turn on the news, listen to them talk and debate, and THEN form an opinion.

Here is a pretty good one, for anyone interested: http://www.speakout.com/VoteMatch/se....asp?quiz=2008

The only question there that boggled my mind was the tie between family values and religion. Apparently being strongly in favor of family values means being strongly in favor of prayer in schools? Who knew.