Yes we can. 2/12/08 - Page 4

Emerald Sword · February 21st, 2008, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Ascension

I was pulling for Thompson but that campaign never got off the ground. l'll have to admit l'm leaning toward McCain even though he has leaned toward the left a bit much for my taste...especially on immigration. Anyone will be better than Hussein Obama (Change...change what & how? Everyone is waiting to hear...so please expound) or Hitlary.

I love what you're saying. Can you believe it? LOL! I was actually pulling for Romney myself, but I liked Fred Thompson, too. I'm not a fan of the leftists, either.

Kenso · February 21st, 2008, 05:34 PM

its prolly all rigged anyways.

Ascension · February 21st, 2008, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Emerald Sword

I love what you're saying. Can you believe it? LOL! I was actually pulling for Romney myself, but I liked Fred Thompson, too. I'm not a fan of the leftists, either.

l'm not nearly as delusional about politics as l am about my musical tastes & opinions.

nailz · February 22nd, 2008, 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Ascension

Anyone will be better than Hussein Obama (Change...change what & how? Everyone is waiting to hear...so please expound)

I direct you to the following link to answer your question, readily and freely available if people would just .. you know.. look at his website. Right under "issues". Labeled "Blueprint for Change."

http://www.barackobama.com/pdf/Obama...tForChange.pdf

Seriously, you're not the only one screaming "HE WONT TELL US WHAT HE'S GOING TO CHANGE LOL!!!111one" ... Why do people not research the candidates they're critisizing so harshly for things that are RIGHT THERE in front of their faces. Stop listening to Conservative talk radio and think for yourself.

BTW, awesomely clever on the name calling. Did you think those up yourself, or should we credit Rush Limbaugh? It sounds like some trype he'd contrive.

Magius · February 22nd, 2008, 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by nailz

I direct you to the following link to answer your question, readily and freely available if people would just .. you know.. look at his website. Right under "issues". Labeled "Blueprint for Change."

http://www.barackobama.com/pdf/Obama...tForChange.pdf

Seriously, you're not the only one screaming "HE WONT TELL US WHAT HE'S GOING TO CHANGE LOL!!!111one" ... Why do people not research the candidates they're critisizing so harshly for things that are RIGHT THERE in front of their faces. Stop listening to Conservative talk radio and think for yourself..

I read that "plan." It's all I can do to sit here, and not run screaming through the night. The months' worth of typing it'd take to even begin refuting it ain't worth it.

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Originally Posted by nailz

BTW, awesomely clever on the name calling. Did you think those up yourself, or should we credit Rush Limbaugh? It sounds like some trype he'd contrive.

Your candidate's name is Barack Hussein Obama. Perhaps you should know the name of the person you want to run your country. The "Hussein" was first widely used in public by former Senator Bob Kerry of Nebraska... a Democrat... during his endorsement of Hillary Clinton.
http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/arc...hussein_obama/

Pellaz · February 22nd, 2008, 03:19 AM

Yep. Obama's middle name is "Hussein." Golly.

I liked Neal Boortz' response to a caller who tried to dredge up Barack's middle name as a negative issue: "Big Deal. It doesn't mean anything and it's not as if he had any choice over what his parents named him."

Score a point for, ahem, conservative talk radio.

There is much more to fear from Obama than just his middle name.

King Lek · February 22nd, 2008, 07:03 AM

Too many people buy into what is said during these election runs. Every 4 years it's the same thing....say what the public wants to hear....do something else after your elected. This is not always by candidate choice but often boils down to political reality due to an aging political system that needs retooling (to say the least).

Reality is that nothing on the US political landscape will change until the political system itself is changed....until the American peoples perception is changed in such away that it is not all about "ME", but "US". The left, the right...the system and media has polarized a nation....sickens me.

With that said, while I have liked many of the candidates as personalities (well, as well as one gets to know them). Some I like because the seem personable and genuine (Huckabee) while in not any ways agreeing with their political or religious philosophies.

I like McCain, but his time past 8 years ago...a shame though his own party is raking him through the coals once again.
Hillary....Liked Bill....Hillary is scary.
Bama...Great "front man"....like his potential.....scary buying issues combined with the system will likely turn the possibilities into Carterisms.

All mentioned will do little to accomplish anything positive for any number of reasons (mainly the system itself), and while overall I would prefer McCain if given the choice, as I feel that within the political norm he is the one who over time has proven his credibility in regards to trust, Am leaning towards the "front man".
VP choice will likely be what sways me.

nailz · February 22nd, 2008, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Magius

I read that "plan." It's all I can do to sit here, and not run screaming through the night. The months' worth of typing it'd take to even begin refuting it ain't worth it.

My point is, it's there, in writing, for anyone who wants to look. Wether or not you agree with it wasn't the issue. Yes, he's a bit extreme to the left, but I'll take that over what we've got now, though I've been saying we need a moderate in the Whitehouse since 2003, no matter how far left *I* am, I know this. But, at the same time, I think a swath needs to be cut from a different fabric for other reasons.

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Your candidate's name is Barack Hussein Obama. Perhaps you should know the name of the person you want to run your country. The "Hussein" was first widely used in public by former Senator Bob Kerry of Nebraska... a Democrat... during his endorsement of Hillary Clinton.
http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/arc...hussein_obama/

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Do you think I'm that mis-informed? Yes, I'm perfectly aware his middle name is Hussein. However, the way it was brought up was clearly insulting, and frankly, I'm SURE the Hitlery comment was just a typo, right?

nailz · February 22nd, 2008, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Pellaz

Yep. Obama's middle name is "Hussein." Golly.

I liked Neal Boortz' response to a caller who tried to dredge up Barack's middle name as a negative issue: "Big Deal. It doesn't mean anything and it's not as if he had any choice over what his parents named him."

Score a point for, ahem, conservative talk radio.

Lol.. good for him. It's actually nice to see a reaction like that, honestly. There was this long chain letter my parents sent to me claiming Obama to be an Al Quadia terrorist. I lol'd hysterically.

Thorn23TX · February 22nd, 2008, 11:34 AM

What's most frightning to me is not how the various candidates will promise one thing during the campaing and do something else when elected... of course it's a major concern, but its almost expected now. No, what scares me most is just how uninformed the general public is with regards to the platforms of each candidate and also believing every internet/email rumor that comes out about them.

For example, one of our local TV stations runs a "viewer's voice" segment each week where they will play comments or read emails that have been sent to the station regarding hot topics of the week. Of course most of you know that Texas is being seen as a make or break primary for Hillary and so we've been getting tons of coverage on their in-state campaigning. The most shocking thing to hear during this morning's segment was just how many people called in and said they can't vote for Obama because he's a Muslim and can't salute the American flag! One caller didn't even know he was a U.S. Citizen and wondered how he could be running for President as a foreigner...

February 21st, 2008, 05:34 PM	#77 (permalink)
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February 22nd, 2008, 03:19 AM	#81 (permalink)
Pellaz Tigron of Immanion Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 5,789	Yep. Obama's middle name is "Hussein." Golly. I liked Neal Boortz' response to a caller who tried to dredge up Barack's middle name as a negative issue: "Big Deal. It doesn't mean anything and it's not as if he had any choice over what his parents named him." Score a point for, ahem, conservative talk radio. There is much more to fear from Obama than just his middle name. __________________ http://www.paulcashman.com pellaz1@comcast.net Proud sponsor of Amorphis, Sonata Arctica, Mercenary, Therion, PoS, Nightwish and Devin Townsend Band for ProgPowers past and current! On SeismicRadio as DJ-Pellaz: http://www.seismicradio.com Also on WREKage, 11:59pm Fri - 5am Sat: http://www.wrekage.org 91.1 FM Atlanta -- Atlanta radio's true home of metal for more than 20 years, also streamed live and archived for a week!

February 22nd, 2008, 07:03 AM	#82 (permalink)
King Lek King of Lekworld Join Date: May 2004 Location: Lekworld Posts: 295	Too many people buy into what is said during these election runs. Every 4 years it's the same thing....say what the public wants to hear....do something else after your elected. This is not always by candidate choice but often boils down to political reality due to an aging political system that needs retooling (to say the least). Reality is that nothing on the US political landscape will change until the political system itself is changed....until the American peoples perception is changed in such away that it is not all about "ME", but "US". The left, the right...the system and media has polarized a nation....sickens me. With that said, while I have liked many of the candidates as personalities (well, as well as one gets to know them). Some I like because the seem personable and genuine (Huckabee) while in not any ways agreeing with their political or religious philosophies. I like McCain, but his time past 8 years ago...a shame though his own party is raking him through the coals once again. Hillary....Liked Bill....Hillary is scary. Bama...Great "front man"....like his potential.....scary buying issues combined with the system will likely turn the possibilities into Carterisms. All mentioned will do little to accomplish anything positive for any number of reasons (mainly the system itself), and while overall I would prefer McCain if given the choice, as I feel that within the political norm he is the one who over time has proven his credibility in regards to trust, Am leaning towards the "front man". VP choice will likely be what sways me.

February 22nd, 2008, 11:34 AM	#85 (permalink)
Thorn23TX Marked By The Triangle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Dallas Posts: 654	What's most frightning to me is not how the various candidates will promise one thing during the campaing and do something else when elected... of course it's a major concern, but its almost expected now. No, what scares me most is just how uninformed the general public is with regards to the platforms of each candidate and also believing every internet/email rumor that comes out about them. For example, one of our local TV stations runs a "viewer's voice" segment each week where they will play comments or read emails that have been sent to the station regarding hot topics of the week. Of course most of you know that Texas is being seen as a make or break primary for Hillary and so we've been getting tons of coverage on their in-state campaigning. The most shocking thing to hear during this morning's segment was just how many people called in and said they can't vote for Obama because he's a Muslim and can't salute the American flag! One caller didn't even know he was a U.S. Citizen and wondered how he could be running for President as a foreigner...