Final 2 Headliners

[Rev. Clayton]

Originally Posted by Magius

Interesting isn't it? Some of their critics say they keep making the same album, and the others say that they're now less progressive and boring. Obviously it can't be both.

'Legendary Tales' through to 'Power Of The Dragonflame' were all standard bombastic Rhapsody Power Metal. That make 4 of the same album. However, 'The Dark Secret' EP and 'Symphony Of The Enchanted Lands; Part II' had a lot more Progressive elements. I agree with Cheiron that 'Triumph or Agony' seems to stress composition over virtuosity. Whether that means it sucks, or makes it boring or not, is a matter of opinion.

In any event the "same album" theory doesn't hold up IMO.

Everything up to SOEL II imo you could show someone one of the albums and basically say you've shown them all of them. However, with SOEL II I think they certianly focused more on the symphonic aspect of the music. The guitars were certainly not as forward as they usually are and there was a lot of choral driven parts. ToA...imo...is not good at all. I like Rhapsody, but I found the album to kind of drag. I need to go back and listen again, but when I first got it it just didn't click and I haven't touched it since then.

But for a long time you could say that rhapsody repeated albums...because they all did sound very similar. now I can't say that because the last two efforts were actually shifting to something else.

Either way...I'm going to listen to ToA again today. And Rhapsody would be a good headliner for IX.

[EJC_74]

Originally Posted by zekeyou

Iced Earth/COB/Evergrey on the Glorious Burden tour
Apr. 29 - BB King's – New York, NY
May 01 - Palladium – Worcester, MA

Well, alrighty then dude!! I didn't discover BBK's until like last year. & had no clue what kinda club it was. But, tat plasce in MA.?? HA! They deserve way laregr venues than THAT! We have a great theater in CT.; or 2 rather. he Bushnell in Hartford, & the Oakdale (now called some crap about a Chevy)-in Wallingford Anyway, hardly a Nation-Wide tour, don't you think?

[EJC_74]

[quote=nailz;6641536]+infinity. While I wouldn't MIND seeing Iced Earth get the nod, I certianly would be indifferent at this point. I'm already sold 50 times over this year, and IE would do nothing for me either way. I'd probably give them a chance to bore me live, and then hang out with Elvenking and Iron Savior.

Iced Earth bores you??? WOW!! That's FUCKED up!

[EJC_74]

Originally Posted by Pellaz

We still have to be looking at two knock-out awesome, fairly powermetal-heavy headliners.

Now that Glenn has -- not surprisingly -- ruled out Therion and Ayreon (in other threads), almost all of the bands I can think of that would be headliner-status have already toured the States, at least to some degree. Iced Earth, Blind Guardian, Rhapsody.... Who else is left? Angra again? Stratovarius again?

So,.....just because a band has headlined, or practically headlined-(I.E.)-the USA, they are no good for PPUSA?? Yeah, that makes sense!??

Since when is this fest solely for introing bands to this country?? I don't get it!??

[Perditions Ghost]

Originally Posted by EJC_74

Well, alrighty then dude!! I didn't discover BBK's until like last year. & had no clue what kinda club it was. But, tat plasce in MA.?? HA! They deserve way laregr venues than THAT! We have a great theater in CT.; or 2 rather. he Bushnell in Hartford, & the Oakdale (now called some crap about a Chevy)-in Wallingford Anyway, hardly a Nation-Wide tour, don't you think?

They deserve way larger venues than The Palladium?

I'd argue that Nightwish is a larger draw now, than Iced Earth was then.

And I'm not even quite certain Nightwish sold out The Palladium last weekend. By the looks of the line, they came damn close if they didn't, but I have no confirmation that they did (There were plenty of tickets at the door but there were a lot of people buying tickets there).

As much as I would love to say that every Metal show I go to at The Palladium is a sellout, I'd be lieing if I said so. We just don't have a scene here that would dictate larger venues for bands such as Iced Earth, Nightwish, Edguy, etc. (I believe the Palladium's capacity is just under 2,000, but don't quote me on that)

The Bushnell is a Performing Arts Center. All I see on their upcoming events is plays and the like. I don't think you're quite likely to see Iced Earth there.

As for Chevrolet Theater.

It has a schedule of Duran Duran, Jethro Tull, and Playhouse Disney Live! On Tour, among other things.

I've also looked at seating charts/images of both venues.

As much as I'd like to see Iced Earth fill those up...

I severely doubt it, especially in our area.

[Perditions Ghost]

As for it "hardly being a nationwide tour", it had 24 dates in 18 states, and 2 dates in Canada.

By comparison, Nightwish's current U.S. tour had 21 dates in 16 states, and 2 dates in Canada.

I'd consider it Nationwide. It didn't hit every state, but look at the logical (and financial) side of things. Tours from these bands CAN'T hit every state.

So, if you want to see a band you like, you're going to have to deal with it.

[dcowboys311]

Originally Posted by EJC_74

So,.....just because a band has headlined, or practically headlined-(I.E.)-the USA, they are no good for PPUSA?? Yeah, that makes sense!??

Since when is this fest solely for introing bands to this country?? I don't get it!??

Do you not understand the concept of drawing power?

[Perditions Ghost]

OH, and I also have another bone to pick with Mr. "Anti-Metal State"!

Connecticut is an Anti-Metal state?

How about you look into WEBSTER THEATER in Hartford?

It got the recent U.S. tours from Epica, Edguy, Katatonia, ChthoniC, and plenty others I can't currently think of (Tours that Mass DIDN'T get)

It has the following Metal shows scheduled: Enslaved, Vader, Obituary, Trail of Tears, Sonata Arctica, Rotting Christ, Exodus, and Nightwish. That's from December to May. I'll tell you, if any place in my state got that many metal shows I wouldn't be calling my state the "Anti Metal State" like you are. I live in Rhode Island. We get virtually nothing. Good thing Mass is around the corner.

[7thSaviour]

Originally Posted by testofwills

Iced Earth would have to be one of the choices for headliners..Could u imagine hearing them in the confines of Earthlink..they would lay waste...One of the premier Power metal bands in the world and being American it would only make sense that Iced earth plays progpower one of these days./..Only thing that might be a problem is they may be touring around that time

Totally

[7thSaviour]

Seriously guys, why not get Nevermore and Strato to co-headline the PPUSA IX Showcase roster?

[7thSaviour]

Originally Posted by Pellaz

We still have to be looking at two knock-out awesome, fairly powermetal-heavy headliners.

Now that Glenn has -- not surprisingly -- ruled out Therion and Ayreon (in other threads), almost all of the bands I can think of that would be headliner-status have already toured the States, at least to some degree. Iced Earth, Blind Guardian, Rhapsody.... Who else is left? Angra again? Stratovarius again?

HAMMERFALL, anyone?!