Anyone Notice the Digital Cameras?

Gunstar9 · September 29th, 2008, 10:33 PM

For some reason it seems like I saw a slew of digital cameras at the show this year that I didn't see the past two years. Every time I turned around I saw someone in the pit or bleachers with a digital camera taking photos.

I saw a large group of people speaking Spanish that had digital cameras during the Hellish Rock show.

I didn't bother reporting anyone because there were so many cameras. I know Glenn is trying to break down on bootleggers, but I don't know what can be done to solve the problem. By the time you squeeze out and find security there is a slim chance you'll be able to get back in and find your bootlegger. Also, you can only give away so many VIP passes for people who reported bootleggers.

On a side note phones are now getting to where they take pictures and videos that surpass digital camera quality from a few years ago.

AngraRULES · September 29th, 2008, 10:40 PM

I saw quite a few with non-VIPs.

kellsco · September 29th, 2008, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Gunstar9

Every time I turned around I saw someone in the pit

If you have a pass to be in the pit, you are allowed to carry a digital camera.

sh0kr0k · September 29th, 2008, 11:10 PM

I could be incorrect, but I believe cameras were allowed at the Hellish Rock show. I don't bother bringing a camera anymore so I don't really pay attention to the specifics. I heard mention that it was okay for Wed & Thurs but not Fri & Sat, and accordingly I saw numerous cams during the first two days, and hardly any on Fri & Sat. Then again, this was the first year in many that I wasn't having to peer between 30 raised hands and cameras during every set, for which I'm very thankful!

Jibrille · September 29th, 2008, 11:17 PM

A lot of the digital "cameras" were cellphones though there were some people I saw with digital cameras. I wasn't sure who to go to since no one was really around besides the security guys who in the past have done nothing. Go hunt someone down and miss part of the set I wanted to see? I decided if I saw anyone obviously videotaping I'd report them but any I saw weren't held up for extended periods of time (I missed Iron Savior where apparently someone was caught taping).

Thorn23TX · September 29th, 2008, 11:19 PM

Signs were posted on the venue doors for Hellish Rock that no cameras were allowed per Helloween and Gamma Ray. I was near the group of "people speaking Spanish" who had the cameras on the floor that night and Glenn was alerted and he addressed the issue with them. I didn't notice many cameras this year besides the ones in the photo pit as I was fortunate enough to be on the rail for most of the fest. Admittedly, I did get a fair bit of amusement during the first two songs of each set watching the photographers do their best to jockey for position to capture shots in the notably smaller pit area this year. I'll bet many of them felt like smoking a cigarette afterwards.

TENTH DREAMER DECEIVER · September 29th, 2008, 11:41 PM

I guess a jeer from me was that I distracted quite a few times by the guy with the penlight. Yeah, I knew it was his job but really there was no enforcement with regard to the camera issue. Security could have checked bags and purses and not allowed entry. Or, perhaps next year just allow it because there is no way to change it.

Yippee38 · September 29th, 2008, 11:52 PM

I saw a ton of people with digital cameras clearly holding them up above the crowd and taking pictures. They were doing it right in front of the sound board and Glenn was sitting there, so I figured they must've been VIPs or something.

nailz · September 30th, 2008, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Thorn23TX

Admittedly, I did get a fair bit of amusement during the first two songs of each set watching the photographers do their best to jockey for position to capture shots in the notably smaller pit area this year. I'll bet many of them felt like smoking a cigarette afterwards.

It was really really hot, especially for the later bands, when EVERYONE started cramming in, and that one guy decided he wanted to head to stage right from stage left, everyone else be damned.

SharkBlack · September 30th, 2008, 12:06 AM

I just saw several iPhones, they are basically a full camera... but I could care less...
I miss using my camera...

gabbo1928 · September 30th, 2008, 12:25 AM

People with VIP or Photo passes are allowed to use digital cameras, and I'm pretty sure everyone I noticed with true digital cameras fell under that category.

As noted earlier, a lot of people were taking pictures with their cell phones, including some of the newer phones with displays large enough to be mistaken for digital cameras at first glance.

Glenn is pretty clear about his policy, and it seems stupid to pay all that money for the show, travel, and accommodations, just to get kicked out for bringing in a digital camera.

I did notice one guy who appeared to be getting busted by security, Glenn, and his crew, but I didn't notice any camera, so I suspect he might have been taping. Ironically, he was being walked off the floor as Iron Savior was closing out their set with "Breakin' the Law."

September 29th, 2008, 10:33 PM	#1 (permalink)
Gunstar9 Skeletor Goes to Mars Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 299	Anyone Notice the Digital Cameras? For some reason it seems like I saw a slew of digital cameras at the show this year that I didn't see the past two years. Every time I turned around I saw someone in the pit or bleachers with a digital camera taking photos. I saw a large group of people speaking Spanish that had digital cameras during the Hellish Rock show. I didn't bother reporting anyone because there were so many cameras. I know Glenn is trying to break down on bootleggers, but I don't know what can be done to solve the problem. By the time you squeeze out and find security there is a slim chance you'll be able to get back in and find your bootlegger. Also, you can only give away so many VIP passes for people who reported bootleggers. On a side note phones are now getting to where they take pictures and videos that surpass digital camera quality from a few years ago. __________________ Death is the first dance, eternal

September 29th, 2008, 11:10 PM	#4 (permalink)
sh0kr0k Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Getmeouttahere, TX Posts: 4,361	I could be incorrect, but I believe cameras were allowed at the Hellish Rock show. I don't bother bringing a camera anymore so I don't really pay attention to the specifics. I heard mention that it was okay for Wed & Thurs but not Fri & Sat, and accordingly I saw numerous cams during the first two days, and hardly any on Fri & Sat. Then again, this was the first year in many that I wasn't having to peer between 30 raised hands and cameras during every set, for which I'm very thankful! __________________ ..:last.fm:..:livejournal:..:youtube:..:facebook:..

September 29th, 2008, 11:17 PM	#5 (permalink)
Jibrille Mob Mentality Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Albany NY Posts: 1,857	A lot of the digital "cameras" were cellphones though there were some people I saw with digital cameras. I wasn't sure who to go to since no one was really around besides the security guys who in the past have done nothing. Go hunt someone down and miss part of the set I wanted to see? I decided if I saw anyone obviously videotaping I'd report them but any I saw weren't held up for extended periods of time (I missed Iron Savior where apparently someone was caught taping). __________________ Lisa, maybe if I'm part of that mob, I can help steer it in wise directions. Now, where's my giant foam cowboy hat and airhorn?

September 29th, 2008, 11:41 PM	#7 (permalink)
TENTH DREAMER DECEIVER Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 854	I guess a jeer from me was that I distracted quite a few times by the guy with the penlight. Yeah, I knew it was his job but really there was no enforcement with regard to the camera issue. Security could have checked bags and purses and not allowed entry. Or, perhaps next year just allow it because there is no way to change it. __________________ Some 2008 shows Iron Maiden - Toronto Y&T - San Francisco (Fillmore!) Nightwish Prog Nation - VIP Gigantour - Megadeth, In Flames Iron Maiden HCW Judas Priest: Vancouver Platinum VIP Monsters of Rock - VIP Crue Fest Judas Priest - Vegas Circle II Circle - Atlanta Helloween/Gamma Ray - Atlanta ProgPower USA IX - Iced Earth, Amorphis etc - Atlanta Helloween VIP Yngwie with Ripper Owens - Vegas Metallica 2x

September 29th, 2008, 11:52 PM	#8 (permalink)
Yippee38 Living the dream! Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Somewhere at 37,000' Posts: 1,642	I saw a ton of people with digital cameras clearly holding them up above the crowd and taking pictures. They were doing it right in front of the sound board and Glenn was sitting there, so I figured they must've been VIPs or something. __________________ "Step out of line And I'll teach you how to fly Then away we'll go" http://www.myspace.com/yippee38

September 29th, 2008, 10:40 PM	#2 (permalink)
AngraRULES In Absentia Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Asgard Posts: 4,460	I saw quite a few with non-VIPs.

September 29th, 2008, 11:19 PM	#6 (permalink)
Thorn23TX Marked By The Triangle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Dallas Posts: 654	Signs were posted on the venue doors for Hellish Rock that no cameras were allowed per Helloween and Gamma Ray. I was near the group of "people speaking Spanish" who had the cameras on the floor that night and Glenn was alerted and he addressed the issue with them. I didn't notice many cameras this year besides the ones in the photo pit as I was fortunate enough to be on the rail for most of the fest. Admittedly, I did get a fair bit of amusement during the first two songs of each set watching the photographers do their best to jockey for position to capture shots in the notably smaller pit area this year. I'll bet many of them felt like smoking a cigarette afterwards.

September 30th, 2008, 12:06 AM	#10 (permalink)
SharkBlack Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: San Jose, Ca Posts: 1,983	I just saw several iPhones, they are basically a full camera... but I could care less... I miss using my camera... __________________ www.myspace.com/raiderblack Is he smiling? Or does he want to eat you?

September 30th, 2008, 12:25 AM	#11 (permalink)
gabbo1928 Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Warren, MI Posts: 9	People with VIP or Photo passes are allowed to use digital cameras, and I'm pretty sure everyone I noticed with true digital cameras fell under that category. As noted earlier, a lot of people were taking pictures with their cell phones, including some of the newer phones with displays large enough to be mistaken for digital cameras at first glance. Glenn is pretty clear about his policy, and it seems stupid to pay all that money for the show, travel, and accommodations, just to get kicked out for bringing in a digital camera. I did notice one guy who appeared to be getting busted by security, Glenn, and his crew, but I didn't notice any camera, so I suspect he might have been taping. Ironically, he was being walked off the floor as Iron Savior was closing out their set with "Breakin' the Law."