Iced Earth - Dystopia - Page 2

Nebulous · September 18th, 2011, 08:49 PM

Yep, liking what I've heard so far (two songs, Anthem and Days or Rage).

korruption · September 23rd, 2011, 03:30 PM

Week 2! 3 more videos to go!

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RedCriss · September 24th, 2011, 04:37 AM

Yeah, that's more like it... finally some music to hear as well. Definitely my expectations are getting higher. Especially as Anthem is such a good song. Days of Rage is ok too, but not quite as good. Back to the vid: those screams in Dark City are nice, though they sound much like the Ripper's screams...

However, I'm curious.

muzmaze · September 24th, 2011, 03:26 PM

Definitely gets my attention. But I find it kind of amusing that at times the vocals sound like both Matt and Ripper...hmmmm? Stu may have the goods. But sometimes you just need to try new towels...pick a different flavor...test drive a different vehicle. I'm sure it'll work in the end.

RedCriss · September 24th, 2011, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by muzmaze

...at times the vocals sound like both Matt and Ripper...

Yeah, I know what you mean... though I think Stu sounds somewhat more brutal. Don't know yet if that's a good or bad thing, but it's just a few more weeks until we'll find out.

korruption · September 24th, 2011, 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by muzmaze

try new towels...pick a different flavor...test drive a different vehicle...

That is of course, if Jon allows him to. Stu's basically under Jon's thumb now but I hope their chemistry and Stu's commitment will last a very long time. Iced Earth needs this now more than ever.

muzmaze · September 26th, 2011, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by korruption

That is of course, if Jon allows him to. Stu's basically under Jon's thumb now but I hope their chemistry and Stu's commitment will last a very long time. Iced Earth needs this now more than ever.

Gotcha.

Though, I meant more big picture going into it...with Jon maybe finding a singer that has a different style than what he has used in the past. Kinda like what Pyramaze did bringing in Matt after Lance...and not someone who was just like Lance so to speak. I get there is alot more that goes into finding / choosing the right singer than appears on the surface. I'm sure IE with Stu will be just fine.

Thorns On My Grave · September 26th, 2011, 05:53 PM

I am a HUGE fan of Stu in Into Eternity, and I have no doubt from the samples I've heard that he will KILL in Iced Earth. Call me convinced this is gonna be an amazing album!

korruption · October 3rd, 2011, 01:14 AM

iTunes has samples of Dystopia up now!
http://itunes.apple.com/us/preorder/...ia/id468174335

RedCriss · October 6th, 2011, 03:03 PM

Haha, nice couple on the pic above.

Check that one out:
the opening track of the new album

I could have sworn that the Stu-era would start with a high pitched scream that lasts for 15 minutes.

I'm glad I was disappointed this time though!!!

After the first spin I liked that song, now - after the 4th spin - I can't get enough of it... Thorns, I guess you'r right, we're in for a great album.

korruption · October 6th, 2011, 05:14 PM

Yeeeaaap yep yep there was never a doubt in my mind that Stucifer would be the perfect voice for Iced Earth.

In all seriousness though, that wasn't far from what I thought when I heard the news that he was joining.

Thank you Jon for not letting us down, and thank you Stu for being the new voice for Iced fucking Earth!!!

korruption · October 7th, 2011, 10:58 AM

You Tube

Thorns On My Grave · October 10th, 2011, 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedCriss

Haha, nice couple on the pic above.

Check that one out:
the opening track of the new album

I could have sworn that the Stu-era would start with a high pitched scream that lasts for 15 minutes.

I'm glad I was disappointed this time though!!!

After the first spin I liked that song, now - after the 4th spin - I can't get enough of it... Thorns, I guess you'r right, we're in for a great album.

Hah hah, just got my promo copy. You guys have no idea how sick this album is. I would be shocked if any of you guys are disappointed.

korruption · October 11th, 2011, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Thorns On My Grave

I would be shocked if any of you guys are disappointed.

Doesn't seem likely, chief. Alas I can't speak for the ignorant drones that haven't (YET!) accepted Stu as the new singer. It's great he had so much freedom to co-write most of the songs and I look forward to hearing the result.

BurntOfferings666 · October 11th, 2011, 01:05 PM

I second what Marc said. Its a sic, sic album and Stucifer's vocals are insane. Easily the best album since Horror Show. Hands down. Bar none.

Iced Dog · October 15th, 2011, 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thorns On My Grave

I would be shocked if any of you guys are disappointed.

Then prepare to be shocked...I'm not feelin' this album at all, and that's the first IE album I can say that about. Stu's vox are OK, but the songwriting feels very bland

korruption · October 16th, 2011, 03:43 AM

*is shocked*
Well it doesn't touch everyone's special spots so no biggy.

The box set should be arriving this week. It'd better since I paid out the ass for it.

I hope all goes well for Stucifer during the tour and he isn't egged off the stage or anything. Hopefully people embrace him like the perfect fit for Iced Earth that he could very well be.

korruption · October 21st, 2011, 03:16 PM

So the album's been released, I got my box set, the album is fucking great, Stu is the singer for Iced Earth and I hope he stays in the band and puts up with Jon for many years to come.

You Tube

Here's a great interview too:

You Tube

0bsolum · October 29th, 2011, 07:45 AM

Gonna see 'em next Thursday, curious to hear how Stu will bring the older material. I'm actually quite confident that he'll do a good job on it. I caught them this summer with Barlow on tour and that was an awesome show, Matt absolutely nailed it from beginning to end. So yeah, it'll be interesting to see how Stu compares.

As for the new album, haven't checked it out yet, not really excited about it. I said back in 2007 or whenever it was that it got out that Barlow was returning to Iced Earth, that it was gonna take more than a good singer to save IE from poor songwriting, and The Crucible of Man kind of proved that point for me. So with that in mind I don't really have high hopes for the new album. I think Stu is a perfect fit for IE, but Jon's songwriting has evolved over the years in a direction that I don't really like; the music just doesn't do anything for me. That's a matter of personal preference, of course. In any case, I'll check out the new album just so I'm kind of familiar with the songs when I go see 'em next week (downloading now). Who knows, I might be pleasantly surprised. But I'm not counting on it.

korruption · October 30th, 2011, 04:03 PM

Great picture here, along with the rest of the new lineup pics on their [his] website.

And here's the video for the title track...

You Tube

0bsolum · November 2nd, 2011, 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iced Dog

Then prepare to be shocked...I'm not feelin' this album at all, and that's the first IE album I can say that about. Stu's vox are OK, but the songwriting feels very bland

6 songs into the first listen of this album now and I have to agree with Iced Dog. I'm definitely not feeling this album. It's all very very "meh". It's not Stu's voice, I don't think I would have liked it much better with Matt on vocals.

Oh well, hopefully they'll play a lot of older stuff tomorrow. Not likely, I know.

RedCriss · November 2nd, 2011, 04:40 PM

Hm, I quite like this album. To me, it's definitely the best one since Horror Show. And though I love the albums with Matt (except Crucible), also on those albums are quite some songs that I often skip. Same with Dystopia. Currently my favorites are: Dark City, Dystopia, Anthem, Boiling Point and V. The ballads and the last songs on the album are not as good though.

And I agree with you all, Stu's vocals are not to blame. I really like his darker voice and to me his middle-ranged voice suits Iced Earth much better Ripper's voice.

I hope that this line-up will last for more than just a few months, maybe the songwriting will also get better then. Dystopia to me is a step forward and there are some really nice riffs that let me hope for more in the future.

PS: Obsolum, I hope you'll enjoy the show tomorrow.

BurntOfferings666 · November 2nd, 2011, 09:43 PM

This is the setlist they've been playing the last few nights.

Dystopia
Burning Times
Angel's Holocaust
Slave to the Dark
V,
Stand Alone
When the Night Falls
Damien
Dark City
Pure Evil
Anguish of Youth
My Own Savior
Anthem
Declaration Day
Days of Rage
Tragedy and Triumph
Dantes Inferno
Iced Earth

On November 1st's show in Amsterdam they swapped Anguish of Youth with End of Innocence.

The Wicked One · November 4th, 2011, 01:51 PM

Pretty cool set list.

Days of Rage would be ok to hear live, but switching it out with Boiling Point would be sweet. Around the same time length and a better chorus + the gang vocals would get the crowd going.

September 18th, 2011, 08:49 PM	#26 (permalink)
Nebulous Daniel Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Brookfield, VIC, Australia Posts: 7,140	Yep, liking what I've heard so far (two songs, Anthem and Days or Rage). __________________

September 24th, 2011, 04:37 AM	#28 (permalink)
RedCriss Pyrawarrior Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Austria Posts: 409	Yeah, that's more like it... finally some music to hear as well. Definitely my expectations are getting higher. Especially as Anthem is such a good song. Days of Rage is ok too, but not quite as good. Back to the vid: those screams in Dark City are nice, though they sound much like the Ripper's screams... However, I'm curious. __________________ And I know shadows are dangers to the heart; they prey on your vanity; don't compromise with who you are... www.urbanbreed.com www.urbanbreed.jimdo.com

September 24th, 2011, 03:26 PM	#29 (permalink)
muzmaze pyramontyrvanfan Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: N.H., USA Posts: 2,542	Definitely gets my attention. But I find it kind of amusing that at times the vocals sound like both Matt and Ripper...hmmmm? Stu may have the goods. But sometimes you just need to try new towels...pick a different flavor...test drive a different vehicle. I'm sure it'll work in the end. __________________ "A MAN IS NEVER TOO WEAK OR WOUNDED TO FIGHT IF THE CAUSE IS GREATER THAN HIS OWN LIFE!" - Oenomaus

September 26th, 2011, 05:53 PM	#33 (permalink)
Thorns On My Grave I Am Vengeance Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Alameda, California Posts: 1,835	I am a HUGE fan of Stu in Into Eternity, and I have no doubt from the samples I've heard that he will KILL in Iced Earth. Call me convinced this is gonna be an amazing album! __________________ www.powerlinemag.com News, Reviews, and Interviews! What is this silent grave to those who never sought to find it? What is greatness to the dead?

October 3rd, 2011, 01:14 AM	#34 (permalink)
korruption Amateur Dentist Join Date: May 2002 Location: Gutters of Gold, Canada Posts: 1,143	iTunes has samples of Dystopia up now! http://itunes.apple.com/us/preorder/...ia/id468174335 __________________ "When I say we’re coming back with a vengeance I’m not fucking around." -Jon Schaffer ICED EARTH - Plagues of Babylon ••••• Oct. 2013! Last edited by korruption : October 5th, 2011 at 12:05 AM.

October 6th, 2011, 03:03 PM	#35 (permalink)
RedCriss Pyrawarrior Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Austria Posts: 409	Haha, nice couple on the pic above. Check that one out: the opening track of the new album I could have sworn that the Stu-era would start with a high pitched scream that lasts for 15 minutes. I'm glad I was disappointed this time though!!! After the first spin I liked that song, now - after the 4th spin - I can't get enough of it... Thorns, I guess you'r right, we're in for a great album. __________________ And I know shadows are dangers to the heart; they prey on your vanity; don't compromise with who you are... www.urbanbreed.com www.urbanbreed.jimdo.com

October 6th, 2011, 05:14 PM	#36 (permalink)
korruption Amateur Dentist Join Date: May 2002 Location: Gutters of Gold, Canada Posts: 1,143	Yeeeaaap yep yep there was never a doubt in my mind that Stucifer would be the perfect voice for Iced Earth. In all seriousness though, that wasn't far from what I thought when I heard the news that he was joining. Thank you Jon for not letting us down, and thank you Stu for being the new voice for Iced fucking Earth!!! __________________ "When I say we’re coming back with a vengeance I’m not fucking around." -Jon Schaffer ICED EARTH - Plagues of Babylon ••••• Oct. 2013!

October 16th, 2011, 03:43 AM	#42 (permalink)
korruption Amateur Dentist Join Date: May 2002 Location: Gutters of Gold, Canada Posts: 1,143	is shocked Well it doesn't touch everyone's special spots so no biggy. The box set should be arriving this week. It'd better since I paid out the ass for it. I hope all goes well for Stucifer during the tour and he isn't egged off the stage or anything. Hopefully people embrace him like the perfect fit for Iced Earth that he could very well be. __________________ "When I say we’re coming back with a vengeance I’m not fucking around." -Jon Schaffer ICED EARTH - Plagues of Babylon ••••• Oct. 2013!

October 29th, 2011, 07:45 AM	#44 (permalink)
0bsolum Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 78	Gonna see 'em next Thursday, curious to hear how Stu will bring the older material. I'm actually quite confident that he'll do a good job on it. I caught them this summer with Barlow on tour and that was an awesome show, Matt absolutely nailed it from beginning to end. So yeah, it'll be interesting to see how Stu compares. As for the new album, haven't checked it out yet, not really excited about it. I said back in 2007 or whenever it was that it got out that Barlow was returning to Iced Earth, that it was gonna take more than a good singer to save IE from poor songwriting, and The Crucible of Man kind of proved that point for me. So with that in mind I don't really have high hopes for the new album. I think Stu is a perfect fit for IE, but Jon's songwriting has evolved over the years in a direction that I don't really like; the music just doesn't do anything for me. That's a matter of personal preference, of course. In any case, I'll check out the new album just so I'm kind of familiar with the songs when I go see 'em next week (downloading now). Who knows, I might be pleasantly surprised. But I'm not counting on it. __________________ Signatures are for posers Last edited by 0bsolum : October 29th, 2011 at 07:49 AM.

November 2nd, 2011, 04:40 PM	#47 (permalink)
RedCriss Pyrawarrior Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Austria Posts: 409	Hm, I quite like this album. To me, it's definitely the best one since Horror Show. And though I love the albums with Matt (except Crucible), also on those albums are quite some songs that I often skip. Same with Dystopia. Currently my favorites are: Dark City, Dystopia, Anthem, Boiling Point and V. The ballads and the last songs on the album are not as good though. And I agree with you all, Stu's vocals are not to blame. I really like his darker voice and to me his middle-ranged voice suits Iced Earth much better Ripper's voice. I hope that this line-up will last for more than just a few months, maybe the songwriting will also get better then. Dystopia to me is a step forward and there are some really nice riffs that let me hope for more in the future. PS: Obsolum, I hope you'll enjoy the show tomorrow. __________________ And I know shadows are dangers to the heart; they prey on your vanity; don't compromise with who you are... www.urbanbreed.com www.urbanbreed.jimdo.com

November 4th, 2011, 01:51 PM	#49 (permalink)
The Wicked One Menacing Bunny Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Howell, Michigan. (boonies) Posts: 743	Pretty cool set list. Days of Rage would be ok to hear live, but switching it out with Boiling Point would be sweet. Around the same time length and a better chorus + the gang vocals would get the crowd going. __________________