AS I LAY DYING - Page 2

CJWall · January 12th, 2007, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by nwright

The mix on the album is good, but for some reason the rhythm guitars sound funky...Not in tone, but attack. It almost sounds like the players were hitting the strings with the side of the pick rather than the flat end edge, if that makes sense. There's no edgy attack, more of a "shwap" instead of a "thunk"...Wonder if this is the result of reamping or just they way they play? Maybe it's OK, just sounds wierd to me.

Weird, I've always loved that about this album, haha. Makes for a very cool sound IMO. Just sounds like the OD820 doing it's thing to me..

Sinister Mephisto · January 13th, 2007, 10:54 PM

I love that sound too! Best thing about the guitars on the album I think. I never knew how to describe it! I'm trying to get a similer sound and the best of got so far did involve a OD820...

chadsxe · January 17th, 2007, 11:53 AM

For some reason I love it to.....

Seizure. · January 17th, 2007, 12:30 PM

It was Od 820 with krank on this record right?

Pman · January 19th, 2007, 02:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nwright

The mix on the album is good, but for some reason the rhythm guitars sound funky...Not in tone, but attack. It almost sounds like the players were hitting the strings with the side of the pick rather than the flat end edge, if that makes sense. There's no edgy attack, more of a "shwap" instead of a "thunk"...Wonder if this is the result of reamping or just they way they play? Maybe it's OK, just sounds wierd to me.

yea i noticed the same thing,
but it must be a good thing though as theyre playing so tight haha

NickL · February 1st, 2007, 11:19 PM

Very very very crunchy guitars. Good shit.

BTW the kick on their previous album is the worst kick sample I've ever heard in my life

Aaron Smith · February 2nd, 2007, 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by The Broodwich

BTW the kick on their previous album is the worst kick sample I've ever heard in my life

It definitely took me some listening to finally get used to that "Frail Words Collapse" kick sound, and by no measure do I think it's great, but at least I can listen to that album without it irritating me. I don't know who mixed that CD or what metal recording experience they have, but I've always imagined the band being like "Make sure the kick is powerful and obvious in the mix", and the engineer fulfilling those wishes without really understanding how to make such a request sound good. I wonder if he was immediately happy with the sample he chose, or if it took some time to convince himself...

JeffTD · April 6th, 2007, 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Diblan

Hm
Great sounding record.
What amps used on guitars?If they are reamped-then-what amps uses for reamping?
Krank?5150?

2 tracks Rev1 through Boogie cab.

Waterboy · July 29th, 2007, 08:51 PM

Who is responsible for An Ocean Between Us?

Mat Laperle · July 29th, 2007, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Waterboy

Who is responsible for An Ocean Between Us?

mr colin richardson is the one who mixed it, and adam d produced it with tim..
can't wait to get some details about it... hope they filmed another studio dvd..

ElektricEyez · September 19th, 2007, 02:55 PM

I think that this was one of the better mixed metal albums out there. Very impressive, and everything is very clear. One thing I would like to know is how the vocals were done. I noticed that the singer sounds different live, than the CD. By different, I mean his voice sounds deeper and the CD, it sounds like there is more of a edge to it. Its almost as if the live he growls from the back of his throat, and in the studio, there is more of a scream.

Via Noctis · September 20th, 2007, 08:47 AM

The song "nothing left" on "an ocean between us" sounds ripped off from Metallica's Blackend.

JoeJackson · October 12th, 2007, 10:01 AM

DAMN ... I knew from the first time I heard it, that that guitarriff was ripped off...

evolutions_end · October 22nd, 2007, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Via Noctis

The song "nothing left" on "an ocean between us" sounds ripped off from Metallica's Blackend.

HAHA!!! yesss!!!!! its not as bad as that tri**um band.

anyway, has anyone found and news/video footage on the making of ocean between us? what other stuff has 'tim' (the producer) done?

Sinister Mephisto · October 22nd, 2007, 01:42 PM

Tim is the vocalist. Appearantly also produced Sworn Enemy.

Denial Machine · October 23rd, 2007, 10:20 PM

The opening riff from "An Ocean Between us" sounds suspiciously like the riff from "Creeping Death" by Metallica.

FULLMETALSPEEDO · October 24th, 2007, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Denial Machine

The opening riff from "An Ocean Between us" sounds suspiciously like the riff from "Creeping Death" by Metallica.

WHA?!!:

Remy_5150 · October 24th, 2007, 09:02 AM

Yeah some of these people saying they ripped off Metallica are completely retarded....

deanbailey · October 24th, 2007, 09:13 AM

I Don't think they intentionally ripped them off, but the intro riff in "Nothing Left" does have a slight resemblance to the one riff in Metallica's "Blackened".

Remy_5150 · October 24th, 2007, 11:40 AM

the "Nothing Left" riff isn't really crazy, in fact its actually kind of generic and basic....enough so that there are tons of bands you could say it sounds like. Have you ever played the riff from Nothing Left or the riff from Blackened? They are completely different.

Sorry I'm being a dick, I'll stop ranting now.

deanbailey · October 24th, 2007, 12:49 PM

@Remy: yeah i agree, just said AILD seeing that it was the topic

Eddy (RawMachine) · October 30th, 2007, 12:50 PM

Now that you guys are talking about it the first thing I noticed was the resemblance between the intro and the Paradise Lost song Say Just Words

You Tube

Disclaimer: I do love AILD, one of my favorite bands. No bashing, just curiosities

Rex Rocker · December 22nd, 2007, 12:00 PM

Shadows are Security and An Ocean Between Us are probably two of the best CD mixes for my taste... the guitars sound HUGE on both

MegaMustaine · December 24th, 2007, 05:43 PM

The drums in Oceans Between Us are awesome!

Manicompression · December 25th, 2007, 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by CJWall

Weird, I've always loved that about this album, haha. Makes for a very cool sound IMO. Just sounds like the OD820 doing it's thing to me..

I won free tickets to The Sounds of the Underground tour they did and was allowed to meet them backstage for a moment, I wasnt going to (im no fanboy) but the beer started flowin and I was like "fuck it" so anyways, I got to talking with the dudes about Zao and Old living Sac and all that cool Solid State stuff and it turns out they LOVE the the Embodyment record "embrace the enternal" which is probably up there in the weirdest metal mix that somehow works category, the one guitar player dude and I had a pretty in depth convo about how awesomely weird the guitar tone was, so its possible that they were actually shooting for that, BTW if your into as AILD check out that Embodyment album, Its the only good one they ever made but its really fucking cool old school metalcore.

February 1st, 2007, 11:19 PM	#31 (permalink)
NickL previously The Broodwich Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Illinois Posts: 1,034	Very very very crunchy guitars. Good shit. BTW the kick on their previous album is the worst kick sample I've ever heard in my life __________________

October 23rd, 2007, 10:20 PM	#41 (permalink)
Denial Machine Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 30	The opening riff from "An Ocean Between us" sounds suspiciously like the riff from "Creeping Death" by Metallica. __________________ My band: http://www.myspace.com/exedmg

October 24th, 2007, 09:02 AM	#43 (permalink)
Remy_5150 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 339	Yeah some of these people saying they ripped off Metallica are completely retarded.... __________________ http://www.myspace.com/trials "It's red meat when I'm hungry, moonshine when I'm dry"

October 24th, 2007, 09:13 AM	#44 (permalink)
deanbailey O.C.D Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 908	I Don't think they intentionally ripped them off, but the intro riff in "Nothing Left" does have a slight resemblance to the one riff in Metallica's "Blackened". __________________ My posts are probably, unintentionally, very highly opinionated.

October 24th, 2007, 11:40 AM	#45 (permalink)
Remy_5150 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 339	the "Nothing Left" riff isn't really crazy, in fact its actually kind of generic and basic....enough so that there are tons of bands you could say it sounds like. Have you ever played the riff from Nothing Left or the riff from Blackened? They are completely different. Sorry I'm being a dick, I'll stop ranting now. __________________ http://www.myspace.com/trials "It's red meat when I'm hungry, moonshine when I'm dry"

January 13th, 2007, 10:54 PM	#27 (permalink)
Sinister Mephisto 1337 Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 2,633	I love that sound too! Best thing about the guitars on the album I think. I never knew how to describe it! I'm trying to get a similer sound and the best of got so far did involve a OD820...

January 17th, 2007, 11:53 AM	#28 (permalink)
chadsxe Super Rad Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,136	For some reason I love it to.....

January 17th, 2007, 12:30 PM	#29 (permalink)
Seizure. Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: holland Posts: 1,922	It was Od 820 with krank on this record right?

July 29th, 2007, 08:51 PM	#34 (permalink)
Waterboy  Certified iPod Trainer Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Baton Rouge, La. Posts: 640	Who is responsible for An Ocean Between Us?

September 19th, 2007, 02:55 PM	#36 (permalink)
ElektricEyez Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 320	I think that this was one of the better mixed metal albums out there. Very impressive, and everything is very clear. One thing I would like to know is how the vocals were done. I noticed that the singer sounds different live, than the CD. By different, I mean his voice sounds deeper and the CD, it sounds like there is more of a edge to it. Its almost as if the live he growls from the back of his throat, and in the studio, there is more of a scream.

September 20th, 2007, 08:47 AM	#37 (permalink)
Via Noctis Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 236	The song "nothing left" on "an ocean between us" sounds ripped off from Metallica's Blackend.

October 12th, 2007, 10:01 AM	#38 (permalink)
JoeJackson Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Germany Posts: 660	DAMN ... I knew from the first time I heard it, that that guitarriff was ripped off...

October 22nd, 2007, 01:42 PM	#40 (permalink)
Sinister Mephisto 1337 Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 2,633	Tim is the vocalist. Appearantly also produced Sworn Enemy.

October 24th, 2007, 12:49 PM	#46 (permalink)
deanbailey O.C.D Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 908	@Remy: yeah i agree, just said AILD seeing that it was the topic __________________ My posts are probably, unintentionally, very highly opinionated.

December 22nd, 2007, 12:00 PM	#48 (permalink)
Rex Rocker Call me Hugo! Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Mexico Posts: 1,282	Shadows are Security and An Ocean Between Us are probably two of the best CD mixes for my taste... the guitars sound HUGE on both

December 24th, 2007, 05:43 PM	#49 (permalink)
MegaMustaine Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 222	The drums in Oceans Between Us are awesome!