Best metal bass riffs...best metal bass player...

HippieOfDoom · January 16th, 2003, 08:15 AM

Ok, I don't remember which thread had best bass lines in metal or if that was best bass player...whatever.
I was paroozing some cd's that had a little dust build up on the shelfy whelfy. Students...I'm giving you homework. Listen to the whole album; John West's "Mind Journey". Barry Sparks is the man on this one. It's metal. It Rules, period.

On that other thread everyone was listing Geezer, Steve Harris and guys like that. I know Black Sabbath can be considered metal. Comparatively speaking, to the bands in their day - they defintely are...same for Maiden as well. But when it comes to this current generation of metal. In other words, any band that wasn't in existence before the mid 80's. I have trouble finding metal bassists that made some noise. In between those metal giants; Sabbath, Maiden, etc. and where metal is now. We had guys like Timmy Grabber from Mercyful Fate and Dan Lilker from S.O.D. getting some recognition. But since then bassists have really taken a beating like a wife of a drunk bastard. Besides Mr.Norberg making it impossible to think we are even close to being worthy, I found this Barry Sparks bass clinic to put high on the "metal bassists worth a shit" list.

Anyone concur?
(This isn't a "who's better?" list, just an attempt to add to our "noticeables" pile that seems to be modestly miniscule.)

chainsawmax · January 16th, 2003, 08:37 AM

I know Barry Sparks, he played on that Roland Grapow solo album named Kaleidoscope, and there's a bunch of songs out there (especially the intrumental "listen to the lyrics") where the bass lines are very cool...

I always thought he was a power metal guy...well anyway, that's cool!

Hey...why am I posting out here???? I'm a guitarist...

BYE

The7thCynic · January 16th, 2003, 12:23 PM

...have you heard Cosmosquad yet? I haven't had the opportunity. Hopefully, he's owning it.

And Entance is the jam. I like his vox on that better than in SA.
Kinda sounds like Ray from Fate's, don't you think?

Oh, and one more thing...who sweats Norberg more, you or me?

LordFireworm · January 16th, 2003, 12:36 PM

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Originally posted by The7thCynic
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Oh, and one more thing...who sweats Norberg more, you or me?

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Who the hell are you?
Tony Choy?
Eamonn

chainsawmax · January 16th, 2003, 01:01 PM

Maybe he's Skott Carino!!!! Or maybe he's Sean...

Spiralmaster · January 16th, 2003, 02:25 PM

John Alderete from Racer X is pretty good

israel · January 16th, 2003, 03:40 PM

Hey Hippie and dudes!!

Here is Barry Sparks's official website!!

http://www.barrysparks.com

Coypu · January 16th, 2003, 05:35 PM

I'm going to place a vote on Sean Malone. He is just an amazing player and also composer. He has a great range and can play both metal, jazz, prog rock convincing. He also a great stick player. His new Gordian Knot album is amazing, just listen to The Brook, The Ocean. Lars Norberg and Sean Malone are the ones who has impressed me the most sofar.

Tony Choy and Roger Patterson does however also hold a special place in my heart for their fantastic work with Atheist. I hope everyone knows about them already.

dimensionidol · January 18th, 2003, 06:18 AM

maybe is usual but my favourite metal bass players are:

-steve di giorgio
-steve harris
-geezer butler
-geddy lee

i do not considering sean malone a metal bassist in effect....

he is like a fusion bass player playing in metal environments

dimensionidol · January 18th, 2003, 06:46 AM

i forgot cliff burton...

CliffEmAll · January 18th, 2003, 08:38 AM

I still say John Entwistle, Jack Bruce, Felix Pappalardi, Roger Glover, and how could I forget, John Paul Jones!!!! These guys are the reason you people even like playing bass in a Metal band anyway!!!! But, you know "they" say about opinions.....

CliffEmAll · January 18th, 2003, 08:44 AM

OH Yeah!!!
Paul McCartney and Paul Samwell-smith (The Yardbirds).

israel · January 18th, 2003, 01:56 PM

Ian Hill from Judas Priest?
Hansi Kursch from Blind Guardian?
Paulo Jr. from Sepultura?
Magnus Rosen from Hammerfall? (he is an awesome bassist, but Hammerfall is just his "job")

MindInsane · January 19th, 2003, 09:29 PM

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Originally posted by HippieOfDoom
Anyone concur?
(This isn't a "who's better?" list, just an attempt to add to our "noticeables" pile that seems to be modestly miniscule.)

Keeping away from the"old favorites"...I think Lars Norberg from Spiral Architect should be added to the "noticeables" pile. That guy is incredible! That whole band is incredible! LOVE IT!

dimensionidol · January 20th, 2003, 05:52 AM

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Originally posted by MindInsane
I think Lars Norberg from Spiral Architect should be added to the "noticeables" pile. That guy is incredible! That whole band is incredible! LOVE IT!

yeah...

HippieOfDoom · January 20th, 2003, 10:45 AM

The topic of this thread has gone a little off course, maybe I should have worded the subject more specific. I appreciate your lists of your favorite bass players (again), and if you didn't notice (obviously) I did mention Lars Norberg.

But I was hoping someone had a chance to hear John West's "Mind Experience" album with Barry playing in a more metal context. I got a Cosomosquad reference, which is cool. I do have all their albums and I just got a chance to see them live (killer!!!). I know there's a bunch of bassists from the 70's that are great, what do you think I grew up on? And as much as I think of Sean Malone being an awesome bassist, I don't think he has done anything impressive in a metal field, if anything metal at all. And the bass player for Racer X is actually interesting a little, I haven't had the chance to really trip on it for a proper comment yet.

So I guess before I start to give up on this little thread, I'll just wonder if I'm the only one who's heard that John West album. It's a great metal-bass albums guys...check it out, if you can.

LordFireworm · January 20th, 2003, 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by HippieOfDoom
And as much as I think of Sean Malone being an awesome bassist, I don't think he has done anything impressive in a metal field, if anything metal at all.

Spiral Architect are no more "Metal" than Cynic.
Also, Brian Bonini of Toxic.

MindInsane · January 21st, 2003, 12:58 AM

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Originally posted by HippieOfDoom
and if you didn't notice (obviously) I did mention Lars Norberg.

Sorry...guess I missed that....now that I feel like an idiot...

January 24th, 2003, 11:30 AM

Steve Digiorgio
Tyr
John Myung
Les Claypool
Cliff Burton
Lemmy Kilmister

Fortunesmith · January 25th, 2003, 09:36 AM

I always thought that both the bassits for Atheist added incredible contributions to the music they played. Roger Patterson and Tony Choy both were fantastic. On the the album 'Unquestionable Presence' the song "I Deny" has some of the most awesome metal bass grooves. I beleive Roger wrote those parts that were played by Tony on that album.
Also, besides Cynic, I thought the bass playing Sean Malone did on the Aghora album was also some great stuff. The one thing that really makes that album stand out for me is that the overall production is not that great, but the bass mix was amazing.
Johan DeFarfalla's bass on Opeth's 'Morningrise' also added a great feel to the jazzy/trippiness of that album.

The Wanderer · January 25th, 2003, 01:04 PM

ok, keeping in mind current metal bands.

I second Sean Malone, and the other guy who played for cynic. he's awesome on the roadrunner demo 91 as well. i actually the demo better than the full lenght. clearly production. more aggressive.

Also second rober patterson. He's a badass on those ahteist records.

Cliff burton as well, though metallica was around before the mid 80s.

Tyr is starting make some noise, as he should.

Magnus from the crown is pretty good at what he does, i.e. power the band and rock the fuck out.

which ever Bjorler brother (I think Jonas, dont have my at the gates cd in front of me) plays bass for the at the gates and the hautned. besides being really good, he wrote a lot of the shit on slaughter of the soul, so kudos there.

I'm gonna add jared anderson of Hate Eternal and Internecine. He totally made me rethink bass playing in brutally fast extreme metal bands. his lines are tasteful, and he avoids the tempatation to pick and play as manynotes as the guitars (which aint possible anyway, ehehe) and he fills out the sound very well.

none of you have probably heard of him, but you should check this band out. they are called Silencer (www.silencer.cc) and their bassist is really good. his name is jeff alexis.

trying to think of some other bassists that are making some noise.

justin chancellor from tool is a badass.

sharlee deangelos: arch enemy, witchery, mercyful fate god knows what else. hes good on recordings. i think live he's a sloppy mess though.

the bassist for corpsevomit when they were togethere was a badass on his fretless.

eric langolois of cryptopsy totally rules. he's one of the most original bassists i've heard. even if you're not into super crazy brutal death metal, check them out anyway. or just download the song slit your guts off of none so vile or email me and i'll send it to you.

im gonna stop there.

emmitt246 · January 25th, 2003, 04:24 PM

Can't forget Roger Patterson (R.I.P.) and Tony Choy of Atheist.

-Though Tony Choy's work in Pestilence also kicked ass.

January 25th, 2003, 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fortunesmith
On the the album 'Unquestionable Presence' the song "I Deny" has some of the most awesome metal bass grooves. I beleive Roger wrote those parts that were played by Tony on that album.

Sorry...I was wrong. Piece of Time was the album the song 'I Deny' is on and Roger was did play on that album. My bad.

Even though it's not really metal...but does anybody else think that Smaba Briza on the album 'Elements' is amazing? I think that is Tony Choy's finest, period.

Coypu · January 25th, 2003, 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Unregistered
Sorry...I was wrong. Piece of Time was the album the song 'I Deny' is on and Roger was did play on that album. My bad.

Even though it's not really metal...but does anybody else think that Smaba Briza on the album 'Elements' is amazing? I think that is Tony Choy's finest, period.

Yeah Samba Briza is a really cool and pretty unexpected track on that album. Tony did a really good job on that album and UP too. I still wonder how it would had sounded if Roger was alive though, that man was also truly brilliant.

Fortunesmith · January 25th, 2003, 06:59 PM

Doug Keyser from Watchtower is also an honorable mention. The album 'Control and Resistance' still gets it's spins in my stereo.

January 16th, 2003, 08:15 AM	#1 (permalink)
HippieOfDoom The 13th Monkey Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Golden State Posts: 682	Best metal bass riffs...best metal bass player... Ok, I don't remember which thread had best bass lines in metal or if that was best bass player...whatever. I was paroozing some cd's that had a little dust build up on the shelfy whelfy. Students...I'm giving you homework. Listen to the whole album; John West's "Mind Journey". Barry Sparks is the man on this one. It's metal. It Rules, period. On that other thread everyone was listing Geezer, Steve Harris and guys like that. I know Black Sabbath can be considered metal. Comparatively speaking, to the bands in their day - they defintely are...same for Maiden as well. But when it comes to this current generation of metal. In other words, any band that wasn't in existence before the mid 80's. I have trouble finding metal bassists that made some noise. In between those metal giants; Sabbath, Maiden, etc. and where metal is now. We had guys like Timmy Grabber from Mercyful Fate and Dan Lilker from S.O.D. getting some recognition. But since then bassists have really taken a beating like a wife of a drunk bastard. Besides Mr.Norberg making it impossible to think we are even close to being worthy, I found this Barry Sparks bass clinic to put high on the "metal bassists worth a shit" list. Anyone concur? (This isn't a "who's better?" list, just an attempt to add to our "noticeables" pile that seems to be modestly miniscule.) __________________ "Who cares what psychiatrists write on walls?" - Jeffery Goines "Today was a good day. A good day." - Helfdane the Fat "We drank, we fought...we made our ancestors proud!" - Thor Odinson Last edited by HippieOfDoom : January 16th, 2003 at 11:29 AM.

January 16th, 2003, 08:37 AM	#2 (permalink)
chainsawmax fan's incarnation Join Date: May 2002 Location: sardinia, Italy Posts: 344	I know Barry Sparks, he played on that Roland Grapow solo album named Kaleidoscope, and there's a bunch of songs out there (especially the intrumental "listen to the lyrics") where the bass lines are very cool... I always thought he was a power metal guy...well anyway, that's cool! Hey...why am I posting out here???? I'm a guitarist... BYE __________________ www.valleyofdrybones.tk - the SADUS fansite

January 16th, 2003, 12:23 PM	#3 (permalink)
The7thCynic Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 40	Hey Steve... ...have you heard Cosmosquad yet? I haven't had the opportunity. Hopefully, he's owning it. And Entance is the jam. I like his vox on that better than in SA. Kinda sounds like Ray from Fate's, don't you think? Oh, and one more thing...who sweats Norberg more, you or me?

January 16th, 2003, 01:01 PM	#5 (permalink)
chainsawmax fan's incarnation Join Date: May 2002 Location: sardinia, Italy Posts: 344	mmmmm.... Maybe he's Skott Carino!!!! Or maybe he's Sean... __________________ www.valleyofdrybones.tk - the SADUS fansite

January 18th, 2003, 06:18 AM	#9 (permalink)
dimensionidol free thinker Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: north of italy Posts: 1,263	maybe is usual but my favourite metal bass players are: -steve di giorgio -steve harris -geezer butler -geddy lee i do not considering sean malone a metal bassist in effect.... he is like a fusion bass player playing in metal environments __________________ "my mother is god,my father is god,my brother,my sister,all are god.god to the right,god to the left,god overhead. christ encounter of the 4th kind"(p.marklund-sol niger within)

January 16th, 2003, 02:25 PM	#6 (permalink)
Spiralmaster Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Barcelona, SPAIN Posts: 6	John Alderete from Racer X is pretty good

January 16th, 2003, 03:40 PM	#7 (permalink)
israel Bassist Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Sao Paulo Posts: 385	Hey Hippie and dudes!! Here is Barry Sparks's official website!! http://www.barrysparks.com

January 16th, 2003, 05:35 PM	#8 (permalink)
Coypu Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 149	I'm going to place a vote on Sean Malone. He is just an amazing player and also composer. He has a great range and can play both metal, jazz, prog rock convincing. He also a great stick player. His new Gordian Knot album is amazing, just listen to The Brook, The Ocean. Lars Norberg and Sean Malone are the ones who has impressed me the most sofar. Tony Choy and Roger Patterson does however also hold a special place in my heart for their fantastic work with Atheist. I hope everyone knows about them already.

January 18th, 2003, 06:46 AM	#10 (permalink)
dimensionidol free thinker Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: north of italy Posts: 1,263	i forgot cliff burton... __________________ "my mother is god,my father is god,my brother,my sister,all are god.god to the right,god to the left,god overhead. christ encounter of the 4th kind"(p.marklund-sol niger within)

January 18th, 2003, 08:38 AM	#11 (permalink)
CliffEmAll Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 134	I still say John Entwistle, Jack Bruce, Felix Pappalardi, Roger Glover, and how could I forget, John Paul Jones!!!! These guys are the reason you people even like playing bass in a Metal band anyway!!!! But, you know "they" say about opinions..... __________________ "so many social engagements.....so little time" http://www.metalprovider.com/koctave

January 18th, 2003, 08:44 AM	#12 (permalink)
CliffEmAll Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 134	OH Yeah!!! Paul McCartney and Paul Samwell-smith (The Yardbirds). __________________ "so many social engagements.....so little time" http://www.metalprovider.com/koctave

January 18th, 2003, 01:56 PM	#13 (permalink)
israel Bassist Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Sao Paulo Posts: 385	Ian Hill from Judas Priest? Hansi Kursch from Blind Guardian? Paulo Jr. from Sepultura? Magnus Rosen from Hammerfall? (he is an awesome bassist, but Hammerfall is just his "job")

January 20th, 2003, 10:45 AM	#16 (permalink)
HippieOfDoom The 13th Monkey Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Golden State Posts: 682	The topic of this thread has gone a little off course, maybe I should have worded the subject more specific. I appreciate your lists of your favorite bass players (again), and if you didn't notice (obviously) I did mention Lars Norberg. But I was hoping someone had a chance to hear John West's "Mind Experience" album with Barry playing in a more metal context. I got a Cosomosquad reference, which is cool. I do have all their albums and I just got a chance to see them live (killer!!!). I know there's a bunch of bassists from the 70's that are great, what do you think I grew up on? And as much as I think of Sean Malone being an awesome bassist, I don't think he has done anything impressive in a metal field, if anything metal at all. And the bass player for Racer X is actually interesting a little, I haven't had the chance to really trip on it for a proper comment yet. So I guess before I start to give up on this little thread, I'll just wonder if I'm the only one who's heard that John West album. It's a great metal-bass albums guys...check it out, if you can. __________________ "Who cares what psychiatrists write on walls?" - Jeffery Goines "Today was a good day. A good day." - Helfdane the Fat "We drank, we fought...we made our ancestors proud!" - Thor Odinson

January 24th, 2003, 11:30 AM	#19 (permalink)
Eternal_Decadent Posts: n/a	Steve Digiorgio Tyr John Myung Les Claypool Cliff Burton Lemmy Kilmister Last edited by Eternal_Decadent : February 1st, 2003 at 02:12 PM.

January 25th, 2003, 09:36 AM	#20 (permalink)
Fortunesmith Put it in your mouth! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Orlando Posts: 65	I always thought that both the bassits for Atheist added incredible contributions to the music they played. Roger Patterson and Tony Choy both were fantastic. On the the album 'Unquestionable Presence' the song "I Deny" has some of the most awesome metal bass grooves. I beleive Roger wrote those parts that were played by Tony on that album. Also, besides Cynic, I thought the bass playing Sean Malone did on the Aghora album was also some great stuff. The one thing that really makes that album stand out for me is that the overall production is not that great, but the bass mix was amazing. Johan DeFarfalla's bass on Opeth's 'Morningrise' also added a great feel to the jazzy/trippiness of that album.

January 25th, 2003, 01:04 PM	#21 (permalink)
The Wanderer Watcher of the Storm Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Denver, Colorado, United States of Arrogance Posts: 1,234	ok, keeping in mind current metal bands. I second Sean Malone, and the other guy who played for cynic. he's awesome on the roadrunner demo 91 as well. i actually the demo better than the full lenght. clearly production. more aggressive. Also second rober patterson. He's a badass on those ahteist records. Cliff burton as well, though metallica was around before the mid 80s. Tyr is starting make some noise, as he should. Magnus from the crown is pretty good at what he does, i.e. power the band and rock the fuck out. which ever Bjorler brother (I think Jonas, dont have my at the gates cd in front of me) plays bass for the at the gates and the hautned. besides being really good, he wrote a lot of the shit on slaughter of the soul, so kudos there. I'm gonna add jared anderson of Hate Eternal and Internecine. He totally made me rethink bass playing in brutally fast extreme metal bands. his lines are tasteful, and he avoids the tempatation to pick and play as manynotes as the guitars (which aint possible anyway, ehehe) and he fills out the sound very well. none of you have probably heard of him, but you should check this band out. they are called Silencer (www.silencer.cc) and their bassist is really good. his name is jeff alexis. trying to think of some other bassists that are making some noise. justin chancellor from tool is a badass. sharlee deangelos: arch enemy, witchery, mercyful fate god knows what else. hes good on recordings. i think live he's a sloppy mess though. the bassist for corpsevomit when they were togethere was a badass on his fretless. eric langolois of cryptopsy totally rules. he's one of the most original bassists i've heard. even if you're not into super crazy brutal death metal, check them out anyway. or just download the song slit your guts off of none so vile or email me and i'll send it to you. im gonna stop there. __________________ Patrick ICQ: 167528150 http://www.valkyrie-studios.com http://www.cephaliccarnage.net ----------------------------------------------- Stream brought words and Stream brought meanings Through its aether were seen all beings beauty revealed as cruelty Core of grief as death of desire

January 25th, 2003, 04:24 PM	#22 (permalink)
emmitt246 Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 9	Can't forget Roger Patterson (R.I.P.) and Tony Choy of Atheist. -Though Tony Choy's work in Pestilence also kicked ass.

January 25th, 2003, 06:59 PM	#25 (permalink)
Fortunesmith Put it in your mouth! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Orlando Posts: 65	Doug Keyser from Watchtower is also an honorable mention. The album 'Control and Resistance' still gets it's spins in my stereo.