Composition and arrangements

Nebulous · February 21st, 2007, 10:05 PM

Hi Steve

If you have the time, and are willing to give some secrets out, I would really appreciate some tips on how to go about studying composition and arrangements. I'm trying to listen to music with more of a focus on the writting, but is there anything that often goes overlooked when studying music like this?

In doing this, I'm trying to mainly improve my song writing, so if you could give me a few tips, or reffer me to other recources, that would be really awsome.

Cheers for your time

Daniel

flying_whale · February 21st, 2007, 10:11 PM

I'm interested in this also. Great thread Nebulos!

Steve Smyth · February 21st, 2007, 11:49 PM

Hey Nebulous,
I am currently teaching this sort of thing.
if you're interested in studying with me, write me at: steve@stevesmyth.com, and I can send you all the info about the lessons.
Here's a link to my webpage regarding the lessons:
www.stevesmyth.com/i-lessons.htm

Nebulous · February 22nd, 2007, 12:54 AM

Yeah, the thought has definately crossed my mind, no doubt about that. At the moment I can't really comit to lessons from anyone, but hopefully sometime in the near future I would definately like to get back to lessons. I will keep you in mind and get back to when I can.

Steve Smyth · February 22nd, 2007, 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Nebulous

Yeah, the thought has definately crossed my mind, no doubt about that. At the moment I can't really comit to lessons from anyone, but hopefully sometime in the near future I would definately like to get back to lessons. I will keep you in mind and get back to when I can.

Understood. The main thing is that there is too much to cover in a single post, and why I am offering this through lessons. It's a vast subject. To answer your question about analyzing music, if you know basic theory, you can analyze someone's writing style pretty easily. And everything is able to be figured out using theory, just depends on the extent of your knowledge.
Hope that helps man!

flying_whale · February 22nd, 2007, 02:57 AM

here is a cool forum on songwritting and composition on the sevenstring.org forum http://www.sevenstring.org/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=51

and one on technique and lesson, on the same website
http://www.sevenstring.org/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=11
pretty cool and useful places and free. the guys are cool there too, so you might some cool stuff there

Nebulous · February 22nd, 2007, 06:54 PM

Ah bloody awsome. Cheers Steve and LotS.

I think, if I get into work soon and have the $$ and time for lessons, you're a very big contender Steve. I mean, there's not point looking around for a good tutor when you have one of you favourite band members offering

At least I know your background is where I want it to be!!

Liverslapper · February 23rd, 2007, 06:10 PM

i really need to work on theory, i have absolutly none what-so-ever, ask be were a G chord is and i honestly couldn't tell you, i play by ear...i don't know all this even though i have been playing for 11 years...

metal evilution · January 13th, 2009, 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nebulous

Ah bloody awsome. Cheers Steve and LotS.

I think, if I get into work soon and have the $$ and time for lessons, you're a very big contender Steve. I mean, there's not point looking around for a good tutor when you have one of you favourite band members offering

At least I know your background is where I want it to be!!

Go for it duuuude!!!

And whilst your at it get him to come to Oz to do a clinic

Steve Smyth · January 14th, 2009, 12:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by metal evilution

Go for it duuuude!!!

And whilst your at it get him to come to Oz to do a clinic

Well, I haven't from ole Neb in quite a while, so not sure if he's still interested or not, but if you're interested, metal evilution, write me at: steve@stevesmyth.com and we can talk further about it.

A clinic in Oz, I would love to do! Let's see if we get Forbidden down under this year on tour! Spread the word!

AngleofDeaf667 · January 15th, 2009, 01:31 AM

That would be awesome to see you down here!! I'll definately try and get you down here!

February 21st, 2007, 10:05 PM	#1 (permalink)
Nebulous Daniel Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Point Cook, Melbourne, Australia Posts: 6,133	Composition and arrangements Hi Steve If you have the time, and are willing to give some secrets out, I would really appreciate some tips on how to go about studying composition and arrangements. I'm trying to listen to music with more of a focus on the writting, but is there anything that often goes overlooked when studying music like this? In doing this, I'm trying to mainly improve my song writing, so if you could give me a few tips, or reffer me to other recources, that would be really awsome. Cheers for your time Daniel __________________ http://www.myspace.com/nebulousdaniel

February 21st, 2007, 11:49 PM	#3 (permalink)
Steve Smyth Lead Ax Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Bay Area Posts: 945	Hey Nebulous, I am currently teaching this sort of thing. if you're interested in studying with me, write me at: steve@stevesmyth.com, and I can send you all the info about the lessons. Here's a link to my webpage regarding the lessons: www.stevesmyth.com/i-lessons.htm __________________ http://www.stevesmyth.com http://www.theessenessproject.com http://www.myspace.com/theessenessproject http://www.listen.to/sweetleaf

February 22nd, 2007, 12:54 AM	#4 (permalink)
Nebulous Daniel Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Point Cook, Melbourne, Australia Posts: 6,133	Yeah, the thought has definately crossed my mind, no doubt about that. At the moment I can't really comit to lessons from anyone, but hopefully sometime in the near future I would definately like to get back to lessons. I will keep you in mind and get back to when I can. __________________ http://www.myspace.com/nebulousdaniel

February 22nd, 2007, 06:54 PM	#7 (permalink)
Nebulous Daniel Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Point Cook, Melbourne, Australia Posts: 6,133	Ah bloody awsome. Cheers Steve and LotS. I think, if I get into work soon and have the $$ and time for lessons, you're a very big contender Steve. I mean, there's not point looking around for a good tutor when you have one of you favourite band members offering At least I know your background is where I want it to be!! __________________ http://www.myspace.com/nebulousdaniel

February 23rd, 2007, 06:10 PM	#8 (permalink)
Liverslapper God Damn Cat!! Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Riverton, Wyoming Posts: 8,368	i really need to work on theory, i have absolutly none what-so-ever, ask be were a G chord is and i honestly couldn't tell you, i play by ear...i don't know all this even though i have been playing for 11 years... __________________

February 21st, 2007, 10:11 PM	#2 (permalink)
flying_whale Rome 64 C.E. Join Date: May 2006 Location: Seattle,Wa Posts: 3,705	I'm interested in this also. Great thread Nebulos!

February 22nd, 2007, 02:57 AM	#6 (permalink)
flying_whale Rome 64 C.E. Join Date: May 2006 Location: Seattle,Wa Posts: 3,705	here is a cool forum on songwritting and composition on the sevenstring.org forum http://www.sevenstring.org/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=51 and one on technique and lesson, on the same website http://www.sevenstring.org/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=11 pretty cool and useful places and free. the guys are cool there too, so you might some cool stuff there

January 15th, 2009, 01:31 AM	#11 (permalink)
AngleofDeaf667 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Australia, Victoria Posts: 120	That would be awesome to see you down here!! I'll definately try and get you down here!