who is the best sweep picker?

sexmachine · February 19th, 2004, 08:12 PM

i got three candidates:
george bellas - ive seen his videos on the web, holy shit?!?!

jason becker
frank gambale

SevenString · February 19th, 2004, 08:43 PM

gambale, hands down: his whole TECHNIQUE is all about the sweeps

in fact, i he CREATED the technique... not arpeggios, but using economy picking (sweep) techniques exclusively

Luis · February 19th, 2004, 09:01 PM

Two Words: Michael Angelo

BastrdDrmr · February 19th, 2004, 09:10 PM

I've always liked Becker the best among the mega sweepers.

Taliwakker · February 19th, 2004, 09:14 PM

Gambale......he turned up at one of my bands gigs a few years ago so i decided to put the sweeps away that night

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That guy has it down.

harro1 · February 20th, 2004, 06:10 AM

*Rusty Cooley*

For sweeps, check out the "JemFest Video 1" at this link:

http://www.rustycooley.com/video.html

This guy is the fastest player I've ever seen. Maybe even ahead of Becker or Ballas.

The Under the Influence vid is cool too.

Harro.

soulshred · February 20th, 2004, 06:26 AM

Jason Becker ,Francesco Fareri(check him out) an d Joe Stump at sweeps but think Yngwie is the master of Arpeggiation

SaTriaNi · February 20th, 2004, 08:38 AM

Marcel coenen

Yngtchie Blacksteen · February 20th, 2004, 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SaTriaNi

Marcel coenen

I like his sweeps, they are very melodic and controlled.

theodyssey · February 20th, 2004, 10:11 AM

http://ultimatemetal.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=173

NegrocK_SyX · February 20th, 2004, 11:29 AM

Frank Gambale is da man Btw np: GHS 3

Yngvai X · February 20th, 2004, 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soulshred

Jason Becker ,Francesco Fareri(check him out) an d Joe Stump at sweeps but think Yngwie is the master of Arpeggiation

Fareri is a sloppy ass player with absolutely zero phrasing ability and worse vibrato than Kirk Hammett. He should be completely disregarded, and it still baffles me as to why people even give his playing the time of day (then again, it baffles me why people think Hammett is so great).

That being said, I would have to agree that Becker and Stump have some of the best sweep arpeggio chops I've ever seen/heard.

RobbM · February 20th, 2004, 12:26 PM

Im surprised no one has mentioned Steve Vai, all his sweeps are amazing, flawless and unique, and he tastefully uses them when they are needed, not just because he can..

theodyssey · February 20th, 2004, 12:48 PM

Fareri is crap

soulshred · February 20th, 2004, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Yngvai X

Fareri is a sloppy ass player with absolutely zero phrasing ability and worse vibrato than Kirk Hammett. He should be completely disregarded, and it still baffles me as to why people even give his playing the time of day (then again, it baffles me why people think Hammett is so great).

That being said, I would have to agree that Becker and Stump have some of the best sweep arpeggio chops I've ever seen/heard.

I totaly agree with you about Fareri but what ı meant was he can sweep amazingly fast ,not Becker fast, much faster but when it comes to phrasing and stuff he sucks and the vibrato ı again totaly agree.
But ofcourse sweeping fast doesnt make you the best sweeper there are other things so yes he should be disregarded.

OfSinsAndShred · February 20th, 2004, 03:20 PM

A lot of people could take this one. I think Yngwie has the cleanest sweeps I've heard, but others can do it faster. Becker has lots of cool ideas with arps, but they always sounded sloppy to me at high speeds (don't get me wrong, he's one of my favorites). Vai has killer arpeggio uses.

But for sheer technique, I'm gonna go with Yngwie. I'll admit, though, I haven't heard a few of the guys mentioned, like Frank Gambale.

Luis · February 20th, 2004, 04:18 PM

MMM Do you guys dont know Michael Angelo?? The fastest man on earth

soulshred · February 20th, 2004, 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OfSinsAndShred

A lot of people could take this one. I think Yngwie has the cleanest sweeps I've heard, but others can do it faster. Becker has lots of cool ideas with arps, but they always sounded sloppy to me at high speeds (don't get me wrong, he's one of my favorites). Vai has killer arpeggio uses.

But for sheer technique, I'm gonna go with Yngwie. I'll admit, though, I haven't heard a few of the guys mentioned, like Frank Gambale.

Yes Yngwie has the cleanest picking whatever alternate or sweep.
Stump is an amazingly clean picker too

theodyssey · February 20th, 2004, 07:12 PM

No, seriously guys... musician's forum. Here:http://ultimatemetal.com/forum/forum...ysprune=&f=173

lunar still X · February 21st, 2004, 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NegrocK_SyX

Frank Gambale is da man Btw np: GHS 3

Awesome SX smilies... where did you get them??

aiwass · February 26th, 2004, 02:29 PM

Angelo isn't that good at sweeping - pretty basic stuff, but at really high speeds. Not impossible speeds, though. Rusty Cooley is not much different. Both are insane at other things, though.

Some of my picks:

Gambale
Bellas
Becker
Marshall Harrison
Derryl Gabel

ABQShredHead · February 26th, 2004, 04:33 PM

Gotta go with Leslie on this one - Gambale all the way. He doesn't just do the simple minor or major arpeggios. He throws his in a jazz/fusion format. I saw him at a guitar clinic back in the '80's - the guy is crazy.

shredmaster · February 27th, 2004, 01:41 PM

Okay now. I think most of us agree that Fareri is crap, Rusty is also(IMO) crap. Gambale is a genius, he was the founder of the technique, as mentioned. He sweeps like a complete maniac, but he doesn`t really do any complicated, and most of them are the same. Angelo plays some of the most cleanest and fastest guitar on earth. It`s simply mindblowing. I think it`s in the intro to "No Boundaries", it`s sweeping all the way, clen as hell. Astonishing. But i can`t bear to listen to it more than about 10 minutes though. Also, i think that Romeo beats them all, since he does not sweep the arpeggios, he actually taps them combined with string skipping to do the whole arpeggios. Then it becomes TOTALLY clean, and the need for the sweeping is therefore(as i see it in most cases) almost superfluous...

ABQShredHead · February 27th, 2004, 02:10 PM

P.S. to my earlier message - Leslie, I dig your tunes.

the_satanic_rabbit · February 28th, 2004, 03:22 AM

Eduardo Munoz gets my vote

February 19th, 2004, 08:12 PM	#1 (permalink)
sexmachine Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 19	who is the best sweep picker? i got three candidates: george bellas - ive seen his videos on the web, holy shit?!?! jason becker frank gambale

February 19th, 2004, 08:43 PM	#2 (permalink)
SevenString RJ-D0, Metal 'Droid Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 219	gambale, hands down: his whole TECHNIQUE is all about the sweeps in fact, i he CREATED the technique... not arpeggios, but using economy picking (sweep) techniques exclusively __________________

February 19th, 2004, 09:01 PM	#3 (permalink)
Luis Mortal With Immortal Mind Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Behind a glass in a real blade of grass Posts: 901	Two Words: Michael Angelo __________________ "Most rock journalism is people who can't write, interviewing people who can't talk, for people who can't read." F Zappa

February 19th, 2004, 09:10 PM	#4 (permalink)
BastrdDrmr Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Green Oak, michigan Posts: 1,027	I've always liked Becker the best among the mega sweepers. __________________ Shred Or Die

February 19th, 2004, 09:14 PM	#5 (permalink)
Taliwakker ..... Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Canberra, Australia Posts: 3,528	Gambale......he turned up at one of my bands gigs a few years ago so i decided to put the sweeps away that night ) That guy has it down. __________________ http://www.myspace.com/taliesinband

February 20th, 2004, 06:10 AM	#6 (permalink)
harro1 Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 10	Rusty Cooley For sweeps, check out the "JemFest Video 1" at this link: http://www.rustycooley.com/video.html This guy is the fastest player I've ever seen. Maybe even ahead of Becker or Ballas. The Under the Influence vid is cool too. Harro.

February 20th, 2004, 06:26 AM	#7 (permalink)
soulshred Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 192	Jason Becker ,Francesco Fareri(check him out) an d Joe Stump at sweeps but think Yngwie is the master of Arpeggiation

February 20th, 2004, 08:38 AM	#8 (permalink)
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February 20th, 2004, 11:29 AM	#11 (permalink)
NegrocK_SyX Odysseus X Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Venezuela Posts: 283	Frank Gambale is da man Btw np: GHS 3 __________________ -=I'm the Master looking down from the edge of space and time...=-

February 20th, 2004, 12:26 PM	#13 (permalink)
RobbM Another lefty freak... Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Ma/Conn Border USA Posts: 1,408	Im surprised no one has mentioned Steve Vai, all his sweeps are amazing, flawless and unique, and he tastefully uses them when they are needed, not just because he can..

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theodyssey Best Album of the Year Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Olympia, WA Posts: 1,752	Fareri is crap __________________ I hate your favorite band.

February 20th, 2004, 03:20 PM	#16 (permalink)
OfSinsAndShred Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Los Angeles, CA, USA Posts: 2,955	A lot of people could take this one. I think Yngwie has the cleanest sweeps I've heard, but others can do it faster. Becker has lots of cool ideas with arps, but they always sounded sloppy to me at high speeds (don't get me wrong, he's one of my favorites). Vai has killer arpeggio uses. But for sheer technique, I'm gonna go with Yngwie. I'll admit, though, I haven't heard a few of the guys mentioned, like Frank Gambale.

February 20th, 2004, 04:18 PM	#17 (permalink)
Luis Mortal With Immortal Mind Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Behind a glass in a real blade of grass Posts: 901	MMM Do you guys dont know Michael Angelo?? The fastest man on earth __________________ "Most rock journalism is people who can't write, interviewing people who can't talk, for people who can't read." F Zappa

February 20th, 2004, 07:12 PM	#19 (permalink)
theodyssey Best Album of the Year Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Olympia, WA Posts: 1,752	No, seriously guys... musician's forum. Here:http://ultimatemetal.com/forum/forum...ysprune=&f=173 __________________ I hate your favorite band.

February 26th, 2004, 02:29 PM	#21 (permalink)
aiwass Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Oslo, Norway Posts: 137	Angelo isn't that good at sweeping - pretty basic stuff, but at really high speeds. Not impossible speeds, though. Rusty Cooley is not much different. Both are insane at other things, though. Some of my picks: Gambale Bellas Becker Marshall Harrison Derryl Gabel

February 26th, 2004, 04:33 PM	#22 (permalink)
ABQShredHead ©1970 Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Albuquerque, NM Posts: 2,628	Gotta go with Leslie on this one - Gambale all the way. He doesn't just do the simple minor or major arpeggios. He throws his in a jazz/fusion format. I saw him at a guitar clinic back in the '80's - the guy is crazy. __________________ More hops, please! I like big hops and I cannot lie... Maker of fine beers and owner of The Backyard Brewery. Action Figures Sold Separately Guitar Talk, Love, & Drums

February 27th, 2004, 01:41 PM	#23 (permalink)
shredmaster Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Hodneland Posts: 232	Okay now. I think most of us agree that Fareri is crap, Rusty is also(IMO) crap. Gambale is a genius, he was the founder of the technique, as mentioned. He sweeps like a complete maniac, but he doesn`t really do any complicated, and most of them are the same. Angelo plays some of the most cleanest and fastest guitar on earth. It`s simply mindblowing. I think it`s in the intro to "No Boundaries", it`s sweeping all the way, clen as hell. Astonishing. But i can`t bear to listen to it more than about 10 minutes though. Also, i think that Romeo beats them all, since he does not sweep the arpeggios, he actually taps them combined with string skipping to do the whole arpeggios. Then it becomes TOTALLY clean, and the need for the sweeping is therefore(as i see it in most cases) almost superfluous...

February 27th, 2004, 02:10 PM	#24 (permalink)
ABQShredHead ©1970 Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Albuquerque, NM Posts: 2,628	P.S. to my earlier message - Leslie, I dig your tunes. __________________ More hops, please! I like big hops and I cannot lie... Maker of fine beers and owner of The Backyard Brewery. Action Figures Sold Separately Guitar Talk, Love, & Drums

February 28th, 2004, 03:22 AM	#25 (permalink)
the_satanic_rabbit Return of Ganon Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Twin Cities, MN Posts: 1,182	Eduardo Munoz gets my vote __________________ TSR - NOT D&D!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ALL HAIL THE MIGHTY //E and ][gs http://www.omwresearch.com