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1 Cor. 13:13 -- Faith, Hope, Love

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  1. FEZZILLA

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    1 Cor. 13:13 -- Faith, Hope, Love

    Atheists are proud and boastful about their foolishness. Like a dog that rolls in it's vomit, atheists love to glory in their shame. Showing no understanding of the Bible, they attack what they don't understand, nor do they want to understand it. Though perhaps through the smokescreens of their minds can come a simple explanation of faith which we can most definitely observe in the human condition.

    Back in 2009, former President Obama gave a speech at Notre Dame University. During this speech, which you can find at the 4-min mark in the link below, he defined "faith" as "doubt." As someone who voted for Obama in 2008, this is when I gave up on him. For during his 8 long and miserable years in office, all he did is attack Christianity and Christians, placing his people in the highest positions of government and education. This also includes getting his people in as many Seminaries as possible. In 2011, the NIV Bible was completely altered, changing 40% of the 1984 Edition. This new NIV'11 would be sold by the same publisher as the Satanic Bible. The alterations of the NIV'11 would clearly attack faith. Thus the NIV'11 became the Obamacare Bible....part of the emerging church of progressive blasphemies. Eight years of public school teachers, University professors, popular music artists, and Hollywood elites, all together with the most radical atheists organizations in the country, would spend billions of dollars attacking the faith of Christians. Even now with President Trump in office, there are still an overwhelming about of Marxist Obama-bots running the government, including many of our Churches and Seminaries. The Democrat Party as a whole has waged an unholy war against Christians.


    If you watched the video you noticed how Obama contradicted the Bible. I've often wondered if anybody present at that speech noticed that? I'm guessing not.



    As you can see, Obama's Marxist definition of faith contradicts the official Biblical definition.
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    Faith, Hope, Love: Proof Evolution Never Happened

    What would life be like if every Christian on earth gave up their faith and succumb to atheism? Would they not lose hope in the resurrection of the dead? Sure they would! Socialist countries, where atheism is the State religion, have alarmingly high suicide rates. Even here in the United States, suicide rates have gone up over 500% since 1962. The more people lose faith in God the more people will kill themselves after losing hope. For in an atheist society, you gotta be a winner, which means you must be successful in all things and life your short life to the absolute fullest, fulfilling all your desires and ambitions before you die eternally. The problem with this idea is it's just another health, wealth, and prosperity scam which only 1% of the world's population ever achieve. The overwhelming majority of people will live average to less than average lives, not living life to the fullest as the super wealthy do. Hence, in order be a fulfilled atheists one must strike it filthy rich!

    But does all the wealth in the world make one happy? We can look into the lives of all the popular rock stars of the 1990s and see that having it all does not lead to happiness. Almost all the popular singers from that period either committed suicide or overdosed on drugs. They died young and atheism didn't save them anymore than atheism can save you. There are many examples that demonstrate where the wealthy do not find happiness. So where is the hope for the less fortunate? Sure we would all prefer to be wealthy over living in poverty. We would all love to marry that ideal dream lover of our heart's content. But in reality most people will live average lives and never fulfill the desires of their heart. Approximately 6000 years of written history and nothing has changed. The poor are still with us and people, by nature, look for hope to have faith in. The humanity of man seeks faith, hope and love by their very nature. Evolution theory strips them of their natural human condition.

    When all hope is lost, people become bitter, envious, hateful, vengeful, full of anger which replaced love. As our Lord and Savior Jesus said:

    These three translation make it very clear that the love of the people during the last days will grow cold. I do believe we are living in this prophecy right now. For nowhere in history have we seen so much hate. But this hate we see comes from people who have lost faith, lost hope, and with the loss of faith and hope went love.

    So people need to discuss these matters openly today. Because if people continue down this angry road of bitterness and hate there will be a war like no other, as Jesus said:





    How much more love do we have to lose before we reach this point? We are not far away from such a war as described by our Lord Jesus Christ.

    Revelation 11:18, HCSB

    "The nations were angry,
    but Your wrath has come.
    The time has come
    for the dead to be judged
    and to give the reward
    to Your servants the prophets,
    to the saints, and to those who fear Your name,
    both small and great,
    and the time has come to destroy
    those who destroy the earth."


    And this is how it all ends. The loss of faith in God only managed to produce a hopeless world where love is replaced with anarchy and chaos. We already see a major loss of love in many people today. Is this what we call progress? Is this the true nature of man? Perhaps it is if we accept the reality of mankind's fallen nature. The loss of faith, hope and love leaves mankind godless, embracing sin and evil. If evolution were to be truth then how come the morality of atheism never supersedes the morality of Christianity?
    The atheist reading this will argue they have better morals than Christians ever had. Yet the suicide rate is still increasing as atheism grows. The loss of morality is noticeable. Evolution theory teaches moral relativism and this message has been drilled into the mind of College students for several decades. There are no morals in atheism because there is no love in atheism. Its a cold, hard, hopeless philosophy that rises up ruthless dictators, serial killers, violent gangs, and hate groups of all kinds that are now taking over western society.

    Since all humans must have love to survive: to love themselves as well as others; it is demonstrably true that humans must have love to continue as a human race. Love is the greatest gift God gave to humanity from the time God created our first parents (Adam and Eve). The love of humanity grew to new heights during the Christian era. Those with faith acted out in love. For without love we cannot and will not sustain the human race. If evolution were to be true than mankind will destroy each other along with the earth! Even top scientists see all this coming which is why they are looking for another planet to escape to. All this to avoid faith, which is undoubtedly a major part of our natural human makeup. Evolutionists expect us to live contrary to what is natural to our true human needs. The outcome of all this we are witnessing right now. Due to progressive leadership in western civilization, humans today are becoming dumber than any other humans in the whole of human history. There is simply zero evidence that secular humanism has made a better world for humans to live in. These secular progressive leaders have led their flock to the slaughter of their true enemies, and still they fix their hatred towards Christians, even against Israel.

    So everything with atheism is a hateful fixation against Christians and Jews. How is this proof for evolution? It isn't. But it is proof of Biblical prophecy! Atheists focus all their hate to fight against God. But why? If God doesn't exist then why are they fighting? Why not just live good, moral and sober lives and live by example? Well...they are living by example but its not a very good example that they are setting. You would think that if evolution were natural to our human condition then these (so-called) enlightened atheists would live much better than Christians on average, and be more loving towards people around them regardless of their beliefs. For if this life is the only life we're gonna live, would it make sense that the godless would live by a higher standard of morale than Christians do? Sure, if evolution were to be true then this enlightenment from atheism would surpass Christianity in all things. But it doesn't.

    Its when we place our faith in God and follow His Christ is when we've been the happiest and most productive nations. Perhaps we have gone beyond the bounds of our human condition by accepting the Holy Spirit to transform our lives, being conscience of our sins, and loving our neighbor as we also love our own selves. For to live in faith is to live for a hope that brings us greater peace and love which we can be certain comes from our Eternal God. We cannot live apart from His Word. We cannot love without His Spirit. Therefore humans must have faith in God in order to continue in the hope and love which had greatly blessed our western society before our leaders corrupted themselves with the hollow and godless philosophy of evolution theory which has laid low the nations. If evolution theory had ever proven anything, it would have proven how badly we all need God in our lives.

    Lastly, if every person in this world genuinely accepted Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior, repenting their sins and living to please God; if everyone in this world followed true Biblical Christianity as the early Christians did, we would live in the most perfect world ever known in human history. And while total perfection is impossible for man to achieve, it would be the best possible utopia that sinful man is could ever achieve. With that said, true perfection will never been seen on earth until Christ returns. Until Jesus comes again...have faith, and love like you've never been hurt. To live in faith is to live in love.


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    Why do you post this pure retardation on a metal forum btw? Kinda curious.
     
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    Where's the hookers?
     
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    I'm posting on topic. This is the Philosophy Section of the forum. When I'm in the mood to post in metal topics I will. I suppose you are used to most metal heads who post anti-Christian posts thinking they are cool. To me they are complete posers are most likely lousy artists. I never did have much of a stomach for posers. To me metal music is a sound and not a dogmatic philosophy of Satanism. There are those of us who are Christians who love metal music but in recent times metal posers have made their music so Satanic it has actually destroyed the sales of metal music due to only one lyrical aim which is to attack Christians. So today I like very few metal bands. Vuur is actually the only metal band I follow currently. But I believe God loves metal music, because He made the firmament so strong, like a heavy metal. But actually the firmament is so strong that meteors burn up and space shuttles have been known to explodes on reentry. So seeing how solid the firmament is it would be no surprise to me if God loves the general sound of metal (when played to exalt Him as our Creator and Redeemer). So I see nothing inherently wrong with metal music. Its only when metal is played to destroy a greater love that makes metal a bad music. But as a Christian I write some killer metal tunes. I'm just not into the band thing anymore.
     
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    Satanism is pathetic and pretty lame, and I have no problems with Christian metalheads or Christian bands, but what you post goes way beyond any of that and you don't really seem to post anywhere else or about anything else. So I'm just curious, you expend so much energy on stuff nobody in here will read, let alone take seriously.

    Doubtless your posts would even alienate many Christian metalheads.
     
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    If Christian metal heads felt alienated by my posts it is because they are not Christians. I've been on this forum since 2003 and don't post too often. True, most of my post are here. But that's just me. When there is an album or a band worth posting many good compliments over, then you will see me go out of my way to support that band. But keep in mind I've heard everything. I am very picky about what bands to talk up. Right now there isn't anything new worth talking up.
     
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    If you say so.
     
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    @CiG you wouldn't say that if you had heard everything.
     
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    I'm reading @FEZZILLA posts, but only because they're so stupid that they're entertaining on a comedic level
    he's either a harcore troll or a complete dumb-ass

    awesome joke reference to a post from another thread
     
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    the posts made by @FEZZILLA are entertaining because he sounds like a member of the westboro baptist church, except for the part where he says he hates the westboro Baptist church, which was a pretty hilarious WTF? moment
     
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    In the small and shallow little world called bigotry, every Christian is a member of the Westboro Baptist Church. FYI, I'm an Anglican Catholic.
     
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    you admitted to being catholic?? wow
    you do know the explanation of the existence of Protestantism was a group of people noticing that Catholicism is a cult, right??

    also
    bitching about Obama and bitching about the 2011 NIV really should have been separated into 2 different posts
     
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    Reality Check: Anglican Catholics are Protestants. The Protestant movement was not against Catholicism but against corruptions in the church. But the majority of people on earth no nothing about the Protestant movement. It had nothing to do with rejecting sound doctrines and tradition. The Anglican Church is the most ancient English speaking church which translated the KJV Bible that most Protestants still use today.
     
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    the KJV was actually way the fuck less accurate than the Wycliffe bible or the Tyndale bible

    also
    English mutates faster than any other language, so a bible that had been written in French/German/Spanish etc etc at any time close to 1611 would be way-the-fuck closer to the modern-day French/German/Spanish etc etc language

    this is the explanation of why there are so many different English translations of the bible
    random people alive today have at least a little difficulty reading the 1611 text, in addition to the fact that the KJV was actually the least accurate English version available at the time

    the only reason that the KJV even still exists today is because it's uncopyrightable
    any copyright holder would have stopped printing this hard-to-read-shit a long time ago

    also
    did i mention the bible itself is a cult?
    heaven is a bribe and hell is a threat with the combination used for behavior control of the general population
    for example, the prohibition against gay sex, and the prohibition against "spilling seed on the ground" helped the Israelites breed faster than the Egyptians
    and the rules that prevented a females from pre-marital-sex and and the rules preventing females from having multiple husbands were used to keep track of which male impregnated which female, allowing for the creation of Patriarchal society, when the Isrealites killed the Midianites in the book of Numbers, the Midianites were a Matriarchal tribe, which is the explanation of why YHWH was "pleased" at the death of the female named Kozbi, she was a high-ranking religious/political figure in the Matriarchal Midianite tribe [according to some bible-study-notes Kozbi was "the female Pope" of the Midianites]

    human female monogamy wasn't made by mother nature, it was invented by Moses
    7 or 8 thousand years ago there were tons of Matriarchal tribes where no one gave a shit about which male impregnated the slutty female, you were the child of you mother, who was the daughter of her mother, who was the daughter of her mother, even one of Esau's wives was described as being "the daughter of the daughter of the daughter of" this wife was from a Matriarchal tribe

    but all those Matriarchal tribes got killed by Patriarchal tribes, including a huge-ass-amount of Matriarchal-tribe people relentlessly slaughtered by the Isrealites in the Old Testament
    you wanna know why people started hating Jews, re-read Genesis chapter 34
     
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    I am an expert in English translations of the Bible and have been studying English translations since I was 14. So you bring up a very interesting discussion here. The 1382 Wycliffe Bible was translated solely from the Latin Vulgate. The New Testament did not use the more reliable Textus Receptus either. Even Martin Luther used the Erasmus' second edition (1519) of the Greek New Testament (i.e., Textus Receptus). The Wycliffe was a good first attempt at translating the Bible into English but its not that good of a translation. Also look at the difference in English in John 3:16:

    While they are all the same the spellings and grammar had changed dramatically from the 14th century to the 16th and 18th centuries as you can see here.

    As for overall accuracy, the 1537 Matthew's Bible is better than the KJV overall. The least of the 16th century translations was the 1560 Geneva Bible.

    The KJV's popularity is a little overrated, I confess. But when I say a little I mean just that.
    True, William Tyndale was the greatest genius of translators and we have nothing like him today. He was a great loss to the world of translators. The Matthew's Bible is the true king of English translations.


    Rating Early English Translations Of The Bible.


    I came up with a fun and surprisingly useful system of rating English Bible translations by using video game systems to rate them. This system rates the highest with newer more advance systems and rates them lowest by older more barbaric video game systems.

    1382 Wycliffe Bible -- Atari 2600
    1526 Tyndale New Testament -- Super Nintendo
    1534 Tyndale New Testament -- Playstation 3
    1535 Coverdale Bible -- Super Nintendo
    1537 Matthew Bible -- Playstation 4
    1539 Great Bible -- Playstation 3
    1560 Geneva Bible -- Nintendo
    1568 Bishop's Bible -- Playstation 2
    1611 King James Bible -- Playstation 2
    1769 King James Bible -- Playstation 3

    *Note: It is debatable if perhaps the Bishop's Bible should be rated Playstation 3. Though in the attempts to improve the 1539 Great Bible, the 1568 Bishop's Bible, while being a solid translation, still did not quite surpass the Great Bible. So because of that I gave a slightly lessor rating than the Great Bible.

    Rating Modern English Translations

    ESV -- Playstation
    HCSB -- Nintendo
    ISV -- Atari 2600
    The Message (MSG) -- Magnavox Odyssey
    MEV -- Playstation 2
    NAB -- Magnavox Odyssey
    NABRE -- Brown Box
    NASB -- Playstation
    NIV 1984 Edition -- Super Nintendo
    NIV 2011 Edition -- Brown Box
    NKJV -- Playstation 2
    NLT -- Super Nintendo
    NMB -- Playstation 5
    NRSV -- Magnavox Odyssey
    RSV -- Playstation
    YLT -- Playstation 2

    *Note: The reason why I rated the NMB (New Matthew's Bible) a Playstation 5 is because its not complete yet as the New Testament is all that is modified. However, when this entire Matthew's Bible Project is completed, it will probably become the new crowned jewel of all English Bible translations for those who depend on accuracy over easy reading Bibles.

    Using the evolution of video game systems for rating English translations of the Bible shows us how we have been losing accuracy over the centuries with few exceptions.

    You have a warped view of life due to having digested too much mind poison. Men were not given a free pass to have premarital sex. God is the Author of the Torah and Moses was the compiler. If God did not want gays destroying Israel then your argument is against Almighty God. Good luck with that one.
    Israel's enemies were also evil. Its not like they were fighting against innocent people.

    God is the Author of monogamous love. People who oppose monogamous love have very serious issues. If you don't want to ever love someone then become a pimp.

    Are you actually being serious? Maybe you should re-read the chapter.
    https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+34&version=NKJV
     
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    Here' a sample of Tyndale's work over KJV scholars.

    Tyndale's work over the Geneva and KJV. Some of the changes made were significant as well. Verses such as Proverbs 10:16 are in serious contrast between the Matthew's Bible and Geneva/KJV.

    1537 Matthew Bible (also Coverdale 1535 and Great Bible): "The righteous laboureth to do good, but the ungodly useth his increase unto sin."

    1599 Geneva: "The labour of the righteous tendeth to life, but the revenues of the wicked to sin."

    KJV: "The labour of the righteous tendeth to life: the fruit of the wicked to sin."

    Then there is Ephesians 4:19,

    October Testament (updated from the 1537 Matthew Bible -- Tyndale): "who, being **past repentance,** have given themselves over to wantonness, to work all manner of uncleanness, even with greediness."

    1560/1599 Geneva Bible: "Which being past feeling, have given themselves unto wantonness, to work all uncleanness, even with greediness."

    KJV: "Who being past feeling have given themselves over unto lasciviousness, to work all uncleanness with greediness."

    The best Bible Commentary's all describe a person who is past repentance.

    Then there is H8398 תֵּבֵל têbêl "round world" verses that were removed by the Puritans who translated the Geneva Bible. This removal continued with the KJV and all translations since then. But there is no better defense for Tyndale than the countless lexicons which strongly back Tyndale, hands down. But yet we debate what the Bible teaches about the shape of the earth; and chuwg, while it means sphere, does not come across strong enough for today's overly skeptical atheists. Perhaps they would not have ever been so skeptical had the "round world" verses never been removed from the Bible!

    Here is another example where the Matthew's Bible renders a verse in better English and meaning than the Geneva and KJV:

    Isaiah 45:7,

    Geneva Bible: "I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things."

    KJV: "I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things."

    1537 Matthew's Bible: "It is I that created the light and darkness, I make peace & trouble yee even I the Lord do all these things."

    You cannot miss the difference on this verse. Once again the Matthew's Bible was correct and the word means trouble, calamity, and disaster. The Geneva and KJV scholars understood this to mean the same thing, but today it most definitely does not. So that in a nutshell is the difference between great scholarship and mediocre scholarship. Tyndale's renderings survived the changes in the English language whereas the Geneva and KJV renderings have become...well, you get the point.


    Do not think that the KJV and other translations are not worthy of reading. Extreme thinking is actually more dangerous than the issue itself. For extremities tend to lead to conspiracies and unneeded strife. We don't need that. But an updated version of the Matthew's Bible would sure be nice for Christians all over the world. In the meantime our current translations such as the KJV, MEV, NKJV and RSV will do.
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    the last 2 sentences of my last post were 2 separate ideas
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    the Isrealites killed off a huge Matriarchal Society in the Book of Numbers
    2
    people hating "the sons of Isreal" began with Simon and Levi killing a city and Jacob's other sons stealing all the dead men's property
     
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    I'm off to make three square meals and clear my schedule for the day. Fezzilla has made a post.
     
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    yeah, the length of his posts are ridiculous
     

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