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-7 db rms without clipping

Discussion in 'F.O.H.' started by joeymusicguy, Apr 2, 2009.

  1. -Noodles-

    -Noodles- 3 Initals Mixer

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    Yeah, only way you can tell if there is distortion that isn't mechanically produced.

    I could master a track at -14dB RMS FS and make it distorted, so technically there was LOADS of headroom - but it would still be inaudible.

    They only way to check is to properly listen, and ensure your output meters are calibrated properly.
    Peak limiting to -0.3dB FS will help to reduce reproduction errors and "distortion" when the waveforms are recreated in a DAW / CD player.
     
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    what other plugs are in your chain, though?
     
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    I'm with you. :ill:
     
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    "if it's to loud , your to old".
     
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    But I'd rather support that adage with my volume knob ;)
     
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    I just did a band's demo at around -7.5dBs just with Oxford Limiter and (pretty subtle) use of GClip - it sounded terrible, even though there was no clipping it just sounded really strained and crowded.

    The final version is around -8.5dB, which sounds so much better it's untrue.

    Steve
     
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    Ozone is like the POD. There is no shortage of people who outright bash it and dismiss it, but at the same time there is no shortage of people who are making amazing things with it.
     
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    i can never find a solid way to measure my rms. I try putting paz meter/analyzer last on my master fader and it shows ridiculous numbers on the default rms settings. Like after listening to a whole song, it shows -3 to -4 rms(which is retarded)
     
  9. joeymusicguy

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    those meters never read out correctly, because its a short average (fixed amount of milliseconds average reading), instead of a whole song average

    i open the mastered wave file in sound forge and hit statistics, which gives a whole song average rms reading per channel (left side / right side)
     
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    I use the RMS meter in Elephant (and find I'm usually averaging around -10, which is fine by me!)
     
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    Also one reason joey prolly feels accomplished that he got to -7 is he got there and he mix is still intact and rocking.....most of you and me included, if we took or mixes in the -7 range (whether you would want to or not) it would sound like shit......So to get that loud and your mix still be intact.....I think is an accomplishment.
     
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    Yeah, no argument here on that one!
     
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    can you give any info on how you're using the harmonic exciter?
     
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    lol, Office reference. How'd you do that?
     
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    thats the name of the song i opened...

    its a song on the new prada album.

    and yes, that is really the song title.

    and no the song isnt about the office.
     
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    might not be ABOUT the office...but i don't know where else such reference would come from

    can't believe i missed that when it was 1st posted
     
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    this thread was a tease.
     

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