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Discussion in 'Backline' started by Astrikos, Apr 4, 2011.
Looks super cool, and I love that the headphone out is separate from the line outs, but otherwise I'm not sure it's a huge improvement over the original Duet. I personally prefer the original being FireWire based, as well.
That said, I *just* bought an original Duet last week, so I'm probably trying to justify that in a way.
2 cool things the original doesn't have... softlimit on the converters and balanced outputs... other than that it's pretty much the same just prettier
I just bought mine a few months ago so I feel ya. Haha
They say next generation AD/DA converters.Time will tell about that.It sure does look good though!
At the level the original Duet is at, it's definitely not converters holding your productions back!
The softlimit is kind of cool but I feel like if I'm just careful about peaks I can avoid the need for them. Balanced out's is pretty cool, too, but I've not had any issues running it into my Level Pilot and then into my Adams, although I can imagine balanced would be nice for live usage?
What about usb2?I read that usb2 depends on the processor while firewire has its own bus and that you might lose data during the transmission if you processor is fairly loaded.Is this true.I keep thinking that after all this years they probably fixed these things.Rme babyface have chosen the usb route.Maybe things are more stable now.
Yeah I guess the increased power of computers, better drivers and knowledge kind of brought USB back even for interfaces with a lot of channels (RME Fireface UFX !). I wouldn't worry about USB, as long as the driver is good. And the Apogee Ensemble (with Firewire) still sucks because of the shitty drivers and horrible latency.. Hope they did a better job with the Duet 1 and 2.
Actually jefftd can answer about the drivers and latency since he just got a duet 1.
Actually I don't think that USB2 has ever been a problem for interfaces with two channels. Maybe with crappy chipsets, but that's true for Firewire as well. Firewire is much more problematic in this regard - a lack of hardware/testing/etc (let's face it, pro audio is a niche stuff).
I have zero issues with latency or drivers on my Duet. I have to go maybe 1 buffer setting lower than on my RME to get the same latency, but I notice zero latency when playing through an amp-sim at 128 samples on either device.
I've read about engineers using softlimit during the mastering stage to get a few extra dB out of a song because you can push the converters harder. I think it was Lasse that posted about doing this?
maybe time to update my Apogee One...
Ah yeah, definitely something that's done, although I'm not sure the Duet is something I'd want to trust with my mastering - guys doing that are usually running TC systems or Lavry-style stuff.
Is it really worth $595?
Goddamn Mac only products, I'd whip one of these up if there was support for Win 7. I have an i5 macbook pro, but it's a toy compared to my main DAW.
Jeff how do the converters/sound quality compare between your RME and the Duet? I'm thinking of getting the Babyface since I don't own a Mac.
But seriously though, is it really worth $600?
Yes. 2 high quality pre's and high quality apogee converters.