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"B" note palm mute always boomy....

Discussion in 'F.O.H.' started by akarawd, Jul 4, 2007.

  1. akarawd

    akarawd Member

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    Hi there,
    Have you ever noticed that if you palm mute a "B" note on E string, you get a boomy resonance? For the past 5 years I've tried everything to get an even sound, but to no avail. Is there a certain technique ?

    Thanks in advance,
    Thanos


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  2. NickL

    NickL I'm not here.

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    As in 7th fret B or as in an E string tuned down to B
     
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    do u have ever set up a guitar properly? Or have someone do it for you.....just asking!
     
  4. akarawd

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    Hi,

    I had it set up just for this reason but I've encountered this prob with all guitars I've used so far. It would be really helpful to know if there are people who do not actually experience this. I'm willing to take all the necessary steps to overcome this problem.

    Thanks,
    Thanos
     
  5. deanbailey

    deanbailey O.C.D Member

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    I find that in drop C the 6th string on the 8th fret (G#) is quite 'boomy' too.

    It's probably just the cabs reaction to that frequency.
     
  6. Ermz

    Ermz ¯\(°_o)/¯

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    That's what I always use to test the maximum level of a distorted guitar signal when tracking. It always seems to boom out, like it hits the resonant frequency of the guitar/cab or something. Can't imagine solving the problem unless you have an outboard multiband compressor in your rack.
     
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    deanbailey O.C.D Member

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    Yeah me too (on the level test idea). My problem lessened when i moved it out of the the corner and up onto an Auralex Gramma Pad.
     
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    Tachy Senior Fuckers

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    Yes this is a common problem I think, and I'm convince that is a cab resonance.....
     
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    i have my guitar tuned to Bb Drop and it quite resonant at the 2nd fret on the 6th string (C) :loco:
     
  10. thiagodollor

    thiagodollor New Metal Member

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    Wouldn't that be caused by room modes? Try this formula: 340/2L where L is the lenght (in meters) of the opposite walls in your room, so you will have to measure the distance of your opposing walls and calculate 3 times, width, lenght and height. The results are the frequencys of your first modes, see if it isn't close to the note where you notice the resonance. And as it was mentioned, it can be the cab too but try the above first. Hope I've helped.
     
  11. akarawd

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    Hi,
    Well, I use most of them. Models representing less speakers tend to be a tiny bit better but it is still there. It certainly isn't the room, this problem is evident in any space. I've tried starting a thread at Line6 but had no answer yet. I will let you know if somebody comes up with a proper solution.

    Thanos

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    Myrmidonlord666 New Metal Member

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    Perrhaps different pickups/amp>?
     
  13. akarawd

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    Hi,
    Yeah, had the Ibanez pickups changed to Emg81's and work fine soundwise (the prob remains though) and I use Mackie HR824's, which are quite linear. Maybe we just can't see the wood for the trees here and we're looking at this problem from the wrong point of view. I wonder, do the pros consider this to be a problem or just part of the sound ? Do they try to eliminate it somehow or just minimize it as much as possible ?

    Thanks,
    Thanos

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    Turn lows down. your tone is probably over-eq'd. turning the bass knob "up" doesn't equal heavy. you get a lot more natural low frequencies just from tuning down.
     
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    Its SO much worse on bass. At one time i could not even hold a note on the 7th fret without my subwoofer going insane.
     
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    I´d agree with moonlapse opinion:
    "Can't imagine solving the problem unless you have an outboard multiband compressor in your rack."
     
  17. akarawd

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    Hi,

    Guitar--> Preamp--> Outboard Multiband --> Amp

    wouldn't that be like :

    Guitar--> Preamp--> McDsp Multiband plugin--> Line6 Gearbox plugin

    'cause this is one of the tricks I've tried (and keep on trying) but haven't been able to achieve any decent results yet. What would the approach on the multiband be ?

    To be honest, my best results have been with minimal eq or dynamics tweaking on the Line6, as its sound is probably as good as it gets. Not a perfect or even sound but usable.


    Thanks
    Thanos

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    It's just part of the instrument we play. I've heard it on every electric guitar, with every amp/cab combination I've ever recorded, including the amp sims for some odd reason.

    It's the reason we have the mixing stage for records. There are oddities with every instrument, which we artificially control to give us the 'perfect' end-product sound.
     
  19. akarawd

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    Hi,
    I couldn't agree more, this is the best and most professional answer
    one could give. That's what I was talking about.

    Thanks a lot everybody,

    and especially you moonlapse:headbang: , this has eased my mind.




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  20. Loren Littlejohn

    Loren Littlejohn Lover of all boobage.

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    For me changing pickups fixed the flab in the low end of my guitar.

    It was literally night and day difference.
     

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