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Discussion in 'F.O.H.' started by davidthangjam10, Nov 24, 2013.

  1. FrankTheSmith

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    With the key switching in Kontakt it'll be 8 down picks in down pick mode, 8 in up picks mode, 4 down and 4 up in alternate mode, and 8 hammer/pulloff/tap in hammer/pulloff/tap mode
    Imma mess around with it once it's all recorded to see what sounds best.
     
  2. FrankTheSmith

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    Fingers dead.
    304 down picks, 304 up picks, 304 hammer-on, A0-G3, up slides, down slides, string/hand noise, dead notes.

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    You, sir, are a machine.
     
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    FrankTheSmith keep us posted with the progress . I wouldn't mind putting a few bucks on you paypal account for your effort. A natural sounding vst bass is exactly what i need this days. The first example you posted sounded very natural at fast speeds and that wasn't the case with some comercial stuff i played with.
     
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    So I finished it. 8 down picks, 8 up picks, 16 alternating, 4 dead notes each string, 4 string noises each string, 8 tapping/hammer every fret, 4 slide down fast and slow every fret, 4 slide up fast and slow every fret.
    .... Didn't like the up and down picks so I'm re doing them. I was picking way too hard, everything else is fine but that. All the key switching and all that fancy jazz works like a charm. Should be done by tomorrow.
    It's about 2.33 gigs total, but with the direct from disk function in kontakt it only needs to load 80mb at a time for it to run so it's not using much cpu.
     
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    Sounds 'ight ;)
     
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    Nothing but real bass souns real for fact, but sometimes sampled bass is better. I've recorded a guy with a bass for $650, Something from Cort, don't remember which exactly. And it sounded really bad even with a new strings.
    I haven't used Zombas, but it's pretty nice.
    Also ive found this one as the nice variant: Orange Tree Samples - Cherry Electric Bass
     
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    Wow Man! Respect for the work you've done! Sounds really well! As soon as you'll decide to make it public i'd def buy this!)
     
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    This sounds good but most stuff sounds good in slow songs. Can you make a test for faster extreme metal? I expect it would still sound good based on the first video so I guess the most important aspect is still the humanisation setting in Kontakt. Can you share more about that?
     
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    Rendering a 4 minute video that shows from 120-220bpm 16th notes. And it shows what the humanization script does. I threw in some 400-800bpm 16th notes for the lulz.
     
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    I should have put in the string sliding noise to make it a little more real sounding. 0:00-1:40 is the tempos. 1:40-2:40 shows the humanizing thing. 2:40-3:00 Sick brutal tempos!!!!!
     
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    Those faster tempos are clipping quite a bit, no?

    Why is the audio crackling up at times throughout the video? YT conversion thing? Excellent job on the humanization script, btw :)
     
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    cool bro. mind sharing processing info?, I like the low end in there.
     
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    The screen recorder I use makes my cpu jump up to like 1000000000000 so there's a few crackles and skips here and there.
    The actual kontakt instrument is just DI, but for that video I put on CLA bass with everything flat and I think the chorus/speader was off.
    I'm still messing with the each sample start time, cause most have a nice pick attack, but a few notes I cut too close to the transient.
     
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    LOL, quite a speed overkill, thanks
    I did buy a real bass because of the inability of the vsti's at the time, but I can see a use for your instrument as the sheer number of round robin samples make it very capable. Good work!
     
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    Damn, programmed bass is catching up now, I might as well be out of a job soon! Great video Frank, really impressive (not on the super fast tempos though hahaha)
     
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    Sounds great! Looking forward to this.
     
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    Here's little ditty of the 4th version and final version.
    Just wanted to get the alternate picking to sound good before I moved on to the easier string noise, dead notes, and sliding. Should be 100% done by next year.


     
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    Got it chopped up for easy 1 click exporting for DI and presets.
    It's finally done and everything sounds good.
    Literally all I need is a good name and some fancy artwork for it.
    I think I've become a master object mover arounder organizer guy.

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