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Blind shootout: Cubase stock plugins vs Waves plugins, which one sounds better?

Discussion in 'Practice Room' started by ahjteam, Aug 17, 2011.

  1. ahjteam

    ahjteam Anssi Tenhunen

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    Okay, I made an electronica mix using Waves plugins, but then I tried out the stock Cubase plugins with same settings.

    I replaced:

    CLA compressors, Renessaince Axx and Renessaince Vox with Vintage Compressor or Compressor
    L1, L3-LL and IK Classic Clipper with Limiter
    Renessaince EQ and Q10 with Studio EQ
    SPL Transient Designer with Envelope Shaper
    Rverb with Roomworks
    H-Delay with ModMachine
    The stock cubase plugins I used (delays and sidechain compressors etc) I kept the same

    There was only 1 plugin I couldn't find a replacement for, and it was Renessaince Bass, so I left them out (but if you know what stock Cubase plugin is similar, let me know). But what my point is, is that you don't need to buy a $1000 plugin package to make your mixes sound decent. The stock plugins don't sound 100% the same, but they sound close enough to sound good. Only major fuck up with the stock cubase EQ is that it only has 4 bands... I mean, wtf?

    But which mix do you like better?

    Mix A
    Mix B
     
  2. Uncle Junior

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    A is more raw, the snare (claps) are a bit annoying or too bright,
    B is more professional and clear, at least when it comes to other sounds in the back and bass i like em better, also the claps are more smooth and nicer for the ear.
     
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    B36arin Member

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    Definitely B
     
  4. Jarkko Mattheiszen

    Jarkko Mattheiszen The FU guy.

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    B by a long shot.
     
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    Mago Austrian Blech Machine

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    B sounds a bit fuller in the bass and has a bit better atmosphere.
    But I wouldnt say sounds better by a long shot...

    Did you tweak it to sound about the same or did you copy the settings on the plugs?
     
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    B. It's not even close.
     
  7. ahjteam

    ahjteam Anssi Tenhunen

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    on EQ's same settings, on compressors same ratios, attack/release times and amount of gain reduction (where applicable), on transient shaper plugins I used same attack and sustain amounts and used 10 as length as the Transient Designer doesn't have that parameter, with reverb I used the same size, time and as similar other settings as possible and I quickly A/B listened that they sound roughly similar and as loud. But the main difference most will hear is with the kick and snare as they don't have the RBass.
     
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    OneDaySky Clint

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    Yeah definitely B my side, the lows are more subsonic heavy and highs are more rounded!
     
  9. Winston Wolf

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    And the answer is....
     
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    Delitzsch Führendes Mitglied

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    Yeah. No shit. I've been waiting 5 years for the reveal. :popcorn:
     
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    *dramatic snare roll*
     

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