It would be pretty comical just how far off the rails this thread has gone if it weren't such a chore to have to read a full blown essay in every single post. All I will say on the matter is that I have struggled with depression myself for about as long as I can remember. It indeed sucks, but I do know how to be happy every now and then. I agree with eochaid that in those cases where I am in the real lows my focus is never on other people, and I have never legitimately considered suicide. I also agree that leaping to conclusions based on things we don't have the full picture about is never a good idea. With that, I have grown weary of having to slog through all this crap, and bid you all adieu. Play nice, you all!