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Emg 81 distort the sound!

Discussion in 'Backline' started by Astrikos, May 14, 2010.

  1. Astrikos

    Astrikos Member

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    Hi
    I got a Jackson dkmgt with emg 81 on the bridge.First of all this is the first time i'm playing with an active pickup.I think hitting the strings a little harder makes the sound distort.I don't get any clipping in my daw but the sound is terrible.Checking the waveform in cubase it looks like i have a limiter but i have not of course.Playing a little softer the sounds is ok!
    Is this normal because i have no idea with this pickups.I've posted clips too.Thank you:)
    http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7096129/noise.wav
    http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7096129/no%20noise.wav
     
  2. Ermz

    Ermz ¯\(°_o)/¯

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    That's the pickups clipping internally. It's normal when they run at 9v.
     
  3. Astrikos

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    So the only solution is to change to passives or do the 18volt thing?Also i see that almost anyone plays with the 81.So what happens in the studio when all this big stars play?The sound engineer says to kerry king...hey man don't hit the strings so hard i get buzz?Sorry for the stupid questions,new to this active thing.lol
     
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    What if i change my gauge strings and tuning?The guitar is brand new so the strings are 9 gauge and standard tuning.I will change them to 10 gauge and standard D.Will this make any difference?Thanks a lot for the help. :)
     
  5. JeffTD

    JeffTD Senhor Testiculo

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    You don't hear that clipping when it's played through an amp, and it actually is a decent part of the 'EMG' sound.
     
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    Mutant I hate that supercow !

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    Ok thanks guys!!
     
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    +1, it's supposed to be that way, just play into an amp it sounds fine.
     
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    Hey mutant thanks for that link.I'll check it out.Do you think if i change the 81 with an 85 on the bridge will be the same?I mean will i get clipping again?
     
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    Think of it as an in-built tubescreamer. You're getting saturation before you hit the amp, and as Jeff said, that's a part of this pickup's sound.

    By changing to an 85 you won't avoid the clipping, but you'll get a better sounding pickup.
     
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    Yes i agree 006 i don't hear any clipping when playing thru an amp.Thanks guys
     
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    This is what I don't like about the EMG sound actually. With the 18v mod they aren't bad. Just personal preference, but they are correct once played into an amp its fine :)
     
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    Sorry guys for all the questions but i have to know lol.What about with the blackouts?Do they perform the same like the emg?
     
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    As far as I know yes. You still get that clipping. But its what gives those pickups their "sound".
     
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    Thanks guys, i appreciate for all the help.:kickass:
     
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    From my experience going from 9v to 18v with 85 can rise threshold by 3db, but clipping can still exists, especially if guitar has powerful attack.
    Even EMG 81X can have slight clipping in this situation, where on other guitars it does not have clipping. So someone can try EMG 81X instead of 81 :)
    But, maybe, you will not be so happy because of dynamics comparable to passive pickups :)
     
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    So do you guys usually use guitars with passive pups to record clean stuff and such, instead of EMGs?
     
  18. Jarkko Mattheiszen

    Jarkko Mattheiszen The FU guy.

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    If it's possible, I usually prefer to, yeah.
     
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    I'm not saying the 81's are bad but for sure they are very different compare to passives and since i was playing only with passives now i have to change a few things to my settings.
     
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    Yeah I did the same thing when switching to 81's. Imo 81's and 85's are both awesome. I'm looking to get a set of Blackouts in my s series, if they'll fit without taking out the machete.
     

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