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Evil/Dark chords

Discussion in 'Non-Opeth Music Chat' started by Lateralus14, May 24, 2009.

  1. Lateralus14

    Lateralus14 New Metal Member

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    I'm trying to figure out some evil or dark chords to write stuff with but I just don't know a lot besides tritones and a couple of others. Anyone have some suggestions?
     
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    =p define evil/dark chords? dissonance?
     
  3. Lateralus14

    Lateralus14 New Metal Member

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    Yea pretty much I guess.
     
  4. Words of Credence

    Words of Credence Silent Hill lurker

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    I don't think there's such a thing as an "evil" chord. Sure you can just strum random notes than sound awkward together, but ultimately, I think it comes down to the phrasing.

    I.e. the first part in Heir apparent, that lick that Mike plays before the piano interlude comes in is pretty evil sounding.


    Well...that wasn't very helpful lol.
     
  5. cuntface

    cuntface New Metal Member

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    is this for guitar? forget about learning a few more 'evil' chords, it's better to understand music in a broader sense, have you tried any of wankerness' tabs? just give a search on the member list. learning entire songs will help a lot more than learning a few more chords to work with
     
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    cuntface New Metal Member

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    well obv chords can't be evil, but there has been times where dissonant chords/intervals has been banned due to being the sound of the devil lmao
     
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  8. Alteredmindeath

    Alteredmindeath Wasteland Survivor

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    any minor chords, Eminor Dminor etc. Augmented chords, Major & minor six open chords and movable shapes. Minor major 7 are cool too, i don't want to get too carried away.
     
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    Lateralus14 New Metal Member

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    Already use wankerness tabs, already learned about 15 or so Opeth songs all the way through, already use minor chords, and also things like

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    Just looking for some more diverse shapes to mess with as everyone and their mother has done dark stuff with A minor and D minor chords...

    Yea I guess I just expected there to be some more chords out there I was missing but in general I should just stop sucking at writing music probably.
     
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    Alteredmindeath Wasteland Survivor

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    just go buy an advanced chord book and use it to find dark sounding shapes.
     
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    Nasty-Fire Discursion

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    Damn fucking electricity. I wrote down like 20 interesting chords from my collection of riffs and right at the moment I was done, the electricity shut down for a fraction of second and the computer restarted. Fuck it. :mad:
     
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    god was telling you you're a shit poster
     
  13. Sexy_Grandpa

    Sexy_Grandpa Sexy_Grandpa

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    Heh apparantly centuries ago sequences of Perfect 5ths were forbidden as they were considered to be an evil sound. Kinda funny to think about it these days as the perfect 5th (or powerchord) is a staple of rock music these days. Also in my opinion rather generic and (in general terms) without character.
    Semi off topic but I thought about it when reading this thread. Funny how things change.
     
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    lol @ saying the interval of a perfect 5th is "generic and without character", music as we know it wouldn't exist without it, you know absolutely nothing and are talking out of your ass
     
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    Some music still considers it 'empty' and 'less important'. It's pretty easy to guess which one :D

    You don't even need chords, just stack some of the more dissonant intervals, minor 2nd/Major 7th, diminished 5th, and to a lesser extent major 2nd/minor 7th. In general things sound 'evil' and dissonant when the tones are closer together in pitch. They usually aren't really chords, just tone clusters but still sound good.

    For dissonant chords you can try all sorts of regular minors like diads, triads, 7ths and up, half-diminished sevenths, fully diminished triads and 7ths. also you can try using dominant 7ths because there is a diminished 5th interval between the 3rd and the b7 tones, and its fun for tritone subbing.

    it also depends on the octave of the chords you are using, maybe try playing some notes of the chord up high on the fretboard and then adding in some open string notes for the root and fifth? i don't know just mix it up and try new things
     
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    Lol. Did you just skip to the second to last sentence when reading my post? It seems you didn't notice that before that I also said the perfect 5th was a staple of rock music. And I feel that is fair to say that it is 'without character' as when it comes to substituting chord tones the 5th is often the first tone that is omitted, due to the fact that it technically doesn't really add anything to the quality of a chord. For example, a dominant 7th chord is still a dominant 7th if you omit the perfect 5th.
     
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    Hox Superiorly grim and kvlt

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    The most evil of all:

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    Or maybe...?

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    Hox Superiorly grim and kvlt

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