Porcupine Tree is better than everything you just mentioned. *awaits further lashing* Riverside and Dali sound nothing like PT. Riverside's new album is fantastic. You just said that PT ripped off like 7 genres. Even if I agreed, successfully moulding 7 genres into one cohesive unit would be impressive in its own right. Still disagree. Sauna, I couldn't have said it better myself (aside from the solo work and Storm Corrosion part; I really have to give those more listens).