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German circumcision ban

Discussion in 'Bar' started by John_C, Jul 13, 2012.

  1. TesticleMilkshake

    TesticleMilkshake pewpewlazrz

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    Nice that you finally agree, Marcus, even though I prompted you with this information when I converted to Judaism :rolleyes: Next time you come across something you seem extremely sure about, please get your facts and research straight. :lol:

    Even though I identify as a Jew, I'm actually against circumcision. I might be okay with a mohel doing it (because they cut dicks for a living) but I'm completely against a doctor doing it in a hospital environment (do you really want some overworked and stressed out doctor caring for 20 other infants taking a scalpel to your son's penis? I think not.) Also, doing that shit in a nasty-ass hospital opens up your child to infection, even with the revised, more simplistic metal band methods. Check out this delicious infection caused by MRSA:

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    http://www.circumstitions.com/Complic.html

    In hospitals, male infants are strapped down before getting cut (majority of the American guys cut in a hospital setting before the 1990s were probably circumcised in this fashion.)
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    It REALLY pisses me off that most American males have such flippant attitudes regarding circumcision without knowing the medical and social reality of it. Majority of the world is uncut, evolutionarily speaking, there is a reason why you have a foreskin.

    Although circumcision is seen as the first rite into entering a covenant with G-d, the Bible provides no definitive instructions as to HOW it should be performed (for all we know, circumcision in the religious sense could be pin prick.) Our only way of knowing circumcision today is through the Talmud (or the Oral Law, meaning the Torah as interpreted by sages.) Back when bathing was not the norm and disease was more of a concern, I can understand why circumcision would be desirable. Muslims and Jews performed such rituals because it behaved as a cultural identifier and helped with by supposedly preventing the spread of bacteria and infection. (Jews usually perform the rite of circumcision seven days after birth, Muslims vary by observance and tribe, some boys are circumcised at puberty.) Studies though in the modern day provide conflicting information on this. In the US, circumcision did not become the sexual standard until the early 20th century as it was thought to discourage masturbation, preventing sexual deviance among males.

    Circumcision has been thought to prevent the spread of AIDS (foreskin sometimes tears during sex.) Also, having worked with infants, it's a little easier cleaning a baby boy who has been cut versus uncut. Dead skin can build up, preventing the foreskin from retracting, such will cause infection, like UTIs. I also dated a Russian Jewish fellow for a while who encountered this problem when he started puberty. So much dead skin and excretion had built up on his penis, he was unable to pull his skin back, causing tearing and excessive bleeding. His mother chose not to cut him for political reasons; growing up in Russia before the fall of the Iron Curtain was not such a great time for the Jews. Identifying as little as possible with the community worked to one's advantage, there for no circumcision! Also dated a Chinese guy who snapped his skin bridge between the penis and foreskin while fapping too hard in high school. I think he eventually was circumcised in college, because he kept injuring his skin bridge, and not just from masturbation, but having sex. On one occasion I remember him telling me the wound became infected and needing to go on antibiotics. I felt pretty bad for him. And from a women's perspective, it honestly feels more cushioned having sex with an uncut guy versus one who is cut (not to say that it is better, but it definitely brings the pain factor of entry down.) It is also super soft and cute.

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    Genital herpes in an infant circumcised via Orthodox ritual
    http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2012/...-in-new-york-due-to-risk-of-herpes-infection/
    Orthodox mohels infecting infant boys with herpes (in Orthodoxy, the mohel usually will suck the blood right after the incision)


    Ritual circumcision in Sephardic Jews


    Circumcision of a 5 year old boy on Bizarre Foods, and yes, the grandfather eats the freshly cut foreskin. Yum.
     
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  2. Loren Littlejohn

    Loren Littlejohn Lover of all boobage.

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    It's cool though, I mean I am american, I understand wanting to police the world.
     
  3. colonel kurtz

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    ...and rubber bands. gotta watch for those vicious, vicious, rubber bands!
     
  4. Mutant

    Mutant I hate that supercow !

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    OT warning.

    @all notgiveasinglefuckers:

    A lot of evil in this world happens exactly because people don't give a fuck and do nothing about it.
    Watch out or that evil may come to you and your family some day, you will then cry that no one helped you because they just didn't give a single fuck about your misery.
     
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    Believe it or not - most people over here in America think that uncircumcised means that you cannot see the head - EVER. They think that the penis head is created upon circumcision. They cannot fathom the concept of skin sliding back and forth.

    The fact that the people who support it and go through with it often times don't have a clue about it - that is what really pisses me off.
     
  6. drew_drummer

    drew_drummer Dancefap

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    Is this true?? :guh:
     
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    Okay, maybe not "most people," but a shocking amount really are that uninformed. In my experience, the usual response to anything circumcision related ends with a look of disgust and a comment about Europeans and turtlenecks, and how weird it would be not being able to see the head.
     
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    Yeah, it is pretty crazy out here. Some chicks here even have no idea what it means or what uncircumsized junk looks like. I've thought about this a little for the last couple of days and even though I initially was like "who gives a shit, its just circumcision", i've come to realize that there is no objective way to think about it without realizing it's fucked up. You've got human rights vs. religious freedom in direct conflict. Should parents be allowed to basically unnecessarily amputate a body part off of a baby? Probably not, thats fucked up no matter how you spin it. Should a law be put into place specifically to hinder religious freedom? Well, that's not really cool in this day and age, especially in a country with a history like Germany. But what if for example it was something more serious, like a religious right of cutting a finger off of your infant for no reason, what would happen then? Sometimes I wonder....
     
  9. MarcusGHedwig

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    Pretty much my thoughts, minus any hesitation about the law haha
     
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    i think it's fucking great.
    A kid must be able to choose, when he's older, if he wants a piece of his dick chopped off.
    What's this clean, unclean problem ?? I think there's a solution to that it's called a shower or a bath.


    And yet another minor event turned into some big debate involving cocks and religion... again...

    damn it mankind !
     
  11. TesticleMilkshake

    TesticleMilkshake pewpewlazrz

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    A child should definitely be able to choose, it is his body, of course! Though in defense of those who choose to circumcise, it is easier to clean and change an infant boy who has been cut. I have very distinct memory of a friend changing her baby brother's diaper and shit being caked EVERYWHERE.
     
  12. drew_drummer

    drew_drummer Dancefap

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    Seems to me you've got some cognitive dissonance about this issue. Having a circumcised cock has nothing to do with the amount of shit that comes out of ones arsehole.
     
  13. John_C

    John_C formerly Skeksis268

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    I think the idea is that shit gets everywhere anyway and it's easier to clean shit off a circumcised penis (I can't believe I just typed that :ill:)

    However, I can't see it being such a drag that you should chop it off...
     
  14. drew_drummer

    drew_drummer Dancefap

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    I don't really see how it's easier. Are we seriously saying that circumcision is ostensibly a time saving device? :lol::lol:
     
  15. ratsapprentice

    ratsapprentice God can gtfo

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    It can't be, the Germans are banning it.
     
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    Line666 Fendurr

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  17. Skinny Viking

    Skinny Viking ¯\(°_o)/¯ How do Lydian?

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    dude you're owning this thread :lol:
     
  18. TesticleMilkshake

    TesticleMilkshake pewpewlazrz

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    I wouldn't say that I am having cognitive dissonance :lol: but I am pointing out that some people still view it as a legitmate issue of hygiene.
     
  19. drew_drummer

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    But as has been shown time and time again, it isn't a legitimate issue of hygiene at all.

    I tend to feel this is a cultural thing. It's been going on in the USA now for decades and decades, has its roots in religiosity, and has a room full of bad science in order to support it. No small wonder that the USA continues to embrace it. :heh:
     

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