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GMD Poll: Manilla Road's Discography Ranked

Discussion in 'General Metal Discussion' started by crimsonfloyd, Apr 7, 2018.

  1. crimsonfloyd

    crimsonfloyd Active Member

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    Directions: Rank Manilla Road's studio albums. Order and number each album 1-18. Ties are OK. Your first place album earns 18 points, your second place album earns 17 points, etc.

    Rules:
    • You may rank as few as 9 albums. Lists with less than 9 albums will not be counted.
    • If you list less than 18 albums, the first placed album will still get 18 points, the last placed album will still get 1 point, and the albums in between will have points distributed proportionately. The average points earned for albums that are not listed will not be impacted positively or negatively, so if you don't rank an album, you neither help it or hurt it.
    • If you have fewer than 100 posts on the forum, you may vote, but your vote will not be counted (The TechnicalBarbarity Rule)
    At the end, the albums will be ranked based on their average number of points per vote.

    You have until Friday May 4th to finalize your list, re-familiarize yourself albums you haven’t heard in awhile, familiarize yourself with albums you haven’t heard at all, lobby for any albums you think are underrated, and lobby against any albums you think are overrated.

    And please, no pseudo-Machiavelli shit. Just rank them as you see them.

    Albums:
    Invasion (1980)
    Metal (1981)
    Crystal Logic (1983)
    Open the Gates (1985)
    The Deluge (1986)
    Mystification (1987)
    Out of the Abyss (1988)
    The Courts of Chaos (1990)
    The Circus Maximus (1992)
    Atlantis Rising (2001)
    Spiral Castle (2002)
    Mark of the Beast (2002)
    Gates of Fire (2005)
    Voyager (2008)
    Playground for the Damned (2011)
    Mysterium (2013)
    The Blessed Curse (2015)
    To Kill a King (2017)
     
  2. crimsonfloyd

    crimsonfloyd Active Member

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    I have questions about whether a few of the albums should count.

    The Circus Maximus is technically a Mark Shelton solo album under the Manilla Road name. Do we want to count it?Mark of the Beast is an archival release. It was their original 2nd album that got tabled in favor of Metal. Do we want to count it?
     
  3. mutantllama

    mutantllama Awesome custom title

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    Both should count imo.
     
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  4. HamburgerBoy

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    I was listening to bits and pieces of their later stuff recently and was in awe of how terrible it was. I think I'll actually go through most of the discography just to conclusively determine how garbage this band is.
     
  5. Master_Yoda77

    Master_Yoda77 True Doom

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    Agreed. Especially with Mark of the Beast
     
  6. The Ozzman

    The Ozzman Commander of your mom

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    I was going to do a legit ranking for this band, but I tried listening to the very first album again the other day which I remember not hating and got maybe a minute into the first song before shutting it off.

    MR is trash.jpg
     
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  7. Vegard Pompey

    Vegard Pompey dork quarterer

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    Need to relisten to a bunch of their albums, but my preliminary ranking is something like this:

    1. Crystal Logic
    2. Gates of Fire
    3. Spiral Castle
    4. Atlantis Rising
    5. Open the Gates
    6. Metal
    7. Out of the Abyss
    8. The Courts of Chaos
    9. Mystification
    10. To Kill a King
    11. Invasion
    12. Mark of the Beast
    13. The Deluge
    14. HamburgerBoy
     
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  8. Phylactery

    Phylactery Active Member

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    The Deluge at the bottom?! Are you crazy?

    I'm currently relistening to Spiral Castle and I wouldn't have it as high as 3rd, but it's pretty good stuff.
     
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  9. HamburgerBoy

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    Preliminary to be expanded

    1. Spiral Castle - pretty atmospheric and interesting all the way through, almost psych rock at times, 7/10
    2. The Courts of Chaos - the most progressive Manilla Road I'm familiar with, aside from Vlad the Impaler which is shit, the songs generally show thoughtful arrangements, 6/10
    3. The Circus Maximus - actually a pretty good album if obviously disjointed, nice mix of AOR/neo-prog, trad, and funk/alt metal, 6/10
    4. The Deluge - transition albums are good for this band because it means they're forced to have more than one or two song ideas per album, still some leftover-sounding material but overall an acceptable album, 5/10
    5. Open the Gates - strong highlights but half the album is really basic and repetitive, 4/10
    6. Atlantis Rising - the best parts are up there with Spiral Castle but it has two garbage songs, a few more average ones, and the vocals sometimes resemble the Children of Bodom guy, 4/10
    7. Mark of the Beast - pretty bland psych rock for the most part but not too offensive, 4/10
    8. Mystification - the more melodic/less heavy songs are decent, but so much rehash and filler, 3/10
    9. Crystal Logic - anyone that hates on British Steel for simplistic songwriting while praising this needs to die, 2/10
    10. Out of the Abyss - Return of the Old Ones is good, most of the rest, especially the thrash material, is embarrassing, 2/10
    11. Gates of Fire - not a single interesting moment and full of stupid chugging riffs, 2/10
     
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  10. Krow

    Krow Garbage Connoisseur

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    The Circus Maximus and Mark of the Beast (although I'd go with what the band wants to call it now, Dreams of Eschaton) should definitely count.

    I own everything but the latest two but I have a hard time listening to anything out of my top 6 or so any more.

    I'll rank off the top of my head and I'll revisit other albums and try and finish the list.

    1. Crystal Logic
    2. Invasion
    3. Dreams of Eschaton/Mark of the Beast
    4. Mystification
    5. The Deluge
    6. Out of the Abyss
    7. Open the Gates
    8. Metal
    9. Spiral Castle
    10. Atlantis Rising
    11.
    12.
    13.
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    15.
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    18.
     
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  11. no country for old wainds

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    fuck it, i'm actually gonna do this one as i know a large portion of them pretty well.
     
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  12. RadicalThrasher

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    1. Mystification
    2. The Deluge
    3. Crystal Logic
    4. Out of the Abyss
    5. Open the Gates
    6. The Courts of Chaos
    7. The Circus Maximus
    8. Voyager
    9. Metal
    10. Invasion
     
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  13. Manic Ferocity

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    1. The Deluge
    2. Mystification
    3. Crystal Logic
    4. Open the Gates
    5. Metal
    6. Out of the Abyss
    7. Voyager
    8. Invasion
    9. The Circus Maximus
    10. Gates of Fire
    11. Spiral Castle
    12. Mark of the Beast
    13. Mysterium
    14. Playground of the Damned

    Haven't heard the others.
     
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    1. Voyager
    2. Gates of Fire
    3. The Courts of Chaos
    4. Crystal Logic
    4. Spiral Castle
    5. Gates of Fire
    6. Mark of the Beast
    7. The Deluge
    8. Mystification
    9. Atlantis Rising
    10. Playground of the Damned
    11. Invasion
    12. Out of the Abyss
    13. Metal
    14. Mysterium
    15. Circus Maximus
     
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    1. Crystal Logic
    2. The Courts of Chaos
    3. Mystification
    4. Out of the Abyss
    5. Open the Gates
    6. The Deluge
    7. Gates of Fire
    8. Atlantis Rising
    9. Spiral Castle
    10. Invasion
    11. Mark of the Beast
    12. Voyager
    13. Metal
    14. Playground of the Damned
    15. Mysterium
     
  16. Master_Yoda77

    Master_Yoda77 True Doom

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    1) Crystal Logic (1983)
    2) Mystification (1987)
    3) Gates of Fire (2005)
    4) Open the Gates (1985)
    5) The Deluge (1986)
    6) Voyager (2008)
    7) Spiral Castle (2002)
    8) Atlantis Rising (2001)
    9) Mark of the Beast (2002)
    10) Metal (1981)
    11) The Blessed Curse (2015)
    12) Invasion (1980)
    13) The Courts of Chaos (1990)
    14) Playground for the Damned (2011)
    15) Mysterium (2013)
    16) To Kill a King (2017)
    17) Out of the Abyss (1988)
    18) The Circus Maximus (1992)

    Still a work in progress. Listening to their discography as we speak. Man, Out of the Abyss is BORING.
     
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  17. Krow

    Krow Garbage Connoisseur

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    I listened to Atlantis Rising last night for the first time in a while and it kicked my ass pretty hard. May move it up in my rankings.
     
  18. Master_Yoda77

    Master_Yoda77 True Doom

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    Yeah, I also quite like it, but it still will be somewhere in the middle/low end of my list. I'm relistening to Metal now and I think I might have to lower that down a bit on my list. It's great but it doesn't have the same punch as I remember it having. Queen of the Black Coast and Cage of Mirrors are amazing tracks and are good enough on their own to make Metal awesome, but I'm just not sure if I think it's better than, say, Gates of Fire or Spiral Castle.
     
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    Order of best -> worst

    Crystal Logic
    Metal
    Mystification
    Open the Gates
    The Deluge
    Mark of the Beast
    Spiral Castle
    Atlantis Rising
    Gates of Fire
    Voyager
    Invasion
    Out of the Abyss
    Courts of Chaos
    Playground of the Damned
    Mysterium
    The Blessed Curse
    The Circus Maximus
    To Kill A King -> Listened to this for the first time yesterday, rough album
     
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