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Great metal amp for recording?

Discussion in 'F.O.H.' started by Thared33, Jul 21, 2009.

  1. Thared33

    Thared33 Member

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    I'm sure there are topics like this but I searched and nothing came up so hush :p

    I think I'm going to be doing a switch of brands. I've been using a Mesa rig and it just isn't cutting it for the high gain metal that I'm trying to record. What would you all say are some GREAT amps for recording metal these days, that aren't Mesa? I've been out of the amp loop so I'm not sure what's out there.

    I was thinking a Peavey 6505 or something.
     
  2. CatharsisStudios

    CatharsisStudios trcksngsrpbngs

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    You mean on its own :p? Or used along with the Mesa rig?
     
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    cobhc Amiga Enthusiast

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    What Mesa rig do you have currently?
     
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    A Quad+50/50 power amp.
     
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    cobhc Amiga Enthusiast

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    I don't know a lot about the quads, that's the one based on the Mark series, but in a rackmount right?
     
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    Yep. It's basically a Mark IIc+ and a Mark III in one preamp. And believe it or not, even though it's the renowned high quality Mesa gear, I just can't for the life of me get a decent metal tone out of it. Gain is one thing, but it also just doesn't push the saturation and presence that it should. Just doesn't have a full sound.
     
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    GarethSE New Metal Member

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    you're using a mesa, dude, chances are its YOU thats doing something wrong, not the amp
    get a TS, work on your micing or use different impulses, try different settings :D
     
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    I've been fooling around with different mics, tone settings, mic positioning, EQ, delay, convolution reverb - all of that for literally months, and earlier I hooked up my old Line 6 amp.... which produced a better metal recording in a single sitting, and I literally just threw up a mic on the Line 6 cab, than I'd gotten in months out of the Mesa. That's no joke.

    I knew someone would say that, and believe me I'm just about to give up because something's wrong here. The boost pedal is a good idea and I've actually got on on the way.

    ...and lastly, earlier today I smelled smoke and turns out my 50/50 decided to die. So yeah. I'm fed up and I'm moving on I think.

    :erk:
     
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    GarethSE New Metal Member

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    fair play man
    if you want the obvious answer, 5150, if you wanna be more creative, use a few amp sims and combine like
    i dunno, revalver's 6505 sim mid range, 8505's low and and solo-c's high end and do something totally crazy
     
  11. chonchball

    chonchball 37studios.com

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    I agree with XRated, also, the 5150II sounds nice.
    I've never been particularly fond of Mesa tone, always seems brittle and jarring.
    Peavy's Valve King is actually pretty awesome and it's inexpensive too.
     
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    GarethSE New Metal Member

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    5150 mkII low mids are much less HUGEEEEE than the 5150 though. the 5150 seems to have more thickness on tap with the bass knob, while the mkII's acts more as rumble knob for me, maybe i just need to decouple it from the floor, get some casters for my cab or something.
    its fizzier too, still a nice amp, but if you want a bigger, thicker tone with more ease, 5150 mkI is the way to go.
     
  13. slayercannibalsuffohead

    slayercannibalsuffohead Get a dog up ya!

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    FUCK THAT MESA OFF AND GRAB YOURSELF SOME PEAVEY GOODNESS!
     
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    TheDude Jocke Skog

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    Since you have a Line6, that works with clean, you could go with a 6505. Cheap, one trick pony. But what a trick. ;)
     
  15. DanLights

    DanLights Santa Hat Forever

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    We're getting that lot huh? "I did a search but couldn't find nothing" when sometimes the answer is right in the stickys, or with a very simple search but people just say they did a search so they don't get bashed I guess. Seriously, if you check the clayman thread you'll see 5150 is one of the most widely used amps for metal guitar, people have discussed mesa, peavey and krank amps as the best for metal in a gajillion zizzillion threads. Not being an asshole or anything, just pointing out there are already many threads concerning this, and if you check the FAQ you'll see it's better to use google search on the forum than the internal search engine because it sucks ass
     
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    Right on the money mate... Peavey 6505 with a tube screamer all the way... i can swear by my 6505 and they are built like tanks.
     
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    5150s seem to be much harder to come by these days...
     
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    Plec Master of Ceremonies

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    If you don't want your Quad anymore... PM me and I'll happily buy it from you! :D
     
  19. PhilTheBeard

    PhilTheBeard "The Beard"

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    Heres a list of sick metal amps that i have played that are awesome

    peavey-6505
    peavey-xxx
    engl-fireball
    engl-powerball
    marshall- jvm
    vht- pittbull
    framus- cobra

    iv played or own most of these and there all really sweet but anyway you slice it out of all of these i still use a ts on every single one of them.
     
  20. Metaltastic

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    FTR, I know nothing about the Mesa Quad preamps, and no company is infallible IMO (and also, I've never been impressed by anything I've heard from the Mark series amps for rhythm), so I think it's definitely within the realm of possibility that it's just not the right piece of gear for you! (meaning, not your fault :D)
     

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