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Greatest Metal Guitar Mic on the planet !

Discussion in 'Andy Sneap' started by ApolloSpeed, Nov 3, 2005.

  1. ApolloSpeed

    ApolloSpeed Member

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    damnit.....after hearing recorded guitars on albums like

    It Dies Today
    Bleed the Sky
    Sevendust (seasons)
    Unearth
    Kill Switch
    Caliban
    Disturbed (new album)

    just wondering what the hell everyone is recording with as far as mics ?

    md421 ?
    e609 ?
    sm57 ?
    radio shack ?

    what's the deal the great studios are using ?
     
  2. JeffTD

    JeffTD Senhor Testiculo

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    Jesus christ...search function please.
     
  3. ApolloSpeed

    ApolloSpeed Member

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    no need to be a bastard about it ! :hotjump: :erk:
     
  4. J the TyranT

    J the TyranT Thats just how it is...

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    Besides, this topic has never REALLY been covered... the only real topics have been the SM57 vs the i5... NONE of the other mics have really been discussed.

    FWIW, Meshuggah has used a Neumann TLM193 on a few of their records.. but that's WAY more $$$ than the simple dynamics listed above... so, discuss that.

    J
     
  5. ApolloSpeed

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    Yea....I never really liked mushuggah's sound......It always sounded like the guitars where recorded in a 55 gal. drum.

    I know alot of plp prefer the md421. I just wonder if that is what alot of these bands (that I listed) are using ?

    And if so, are they drastically changing the E.Q. curve in the computer later?
     
  6. Sinister Mephisto

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    Meshuggah to me always sounded like they're playing tanks with strings. very metallic heavy clear... pretty cool but not for me.

    Anyway more on topic, I think alot of the sound comes from things besides the mic. I thought the new disturbed sound was a little weak personally but whatever.

    I hear Two Shure SM-57's were used on DHIADW and that's a lovely guitar tone right there. (I might not be right about this though)
     
  7. James Murphy

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    i can't tell whether you are asking a very subjective question: "which mic does everyone THINK is the best for metal?" or whether you just want to know the historical answer to, "what mic has been used most to achieve the best guitar tones on all the best sounding metal albums over the years?". the latter could arguably be the ubiquitous sm57.
     
  8. Matt Crooks

    Matt Crooks www.fools-game.com

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    I prefer the Royer 122 with a really fast pre like the Avalon 2022. Second choice, an SM57 through a Neve pre. Third choice, an MD421 through a Neve pre. Fourth choice, POD XT.
     
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    Just curious, what do you personally think is the best?
     
  10. Benny H

    Benny H Degenerate

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    This is a long shot, but here's a pic of Carnal Forge recording please..die at Studio Underground..

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    What type of mics might those be? TLM103 look kinda like that, but I guess many do ...heh
     
  11. Sinister Mephisto

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    If the picture doesn't work for you (it didn't for me) try going to http://hem.passagen.se/cf01/0106_rec_vol_3/images/006_studio_01.jpg
     
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    I'm constantly baffled how professionals get this, yet so many hobbyists like myself (but, myself excluded) will argue to the death that the 57 is a piece of junk. I absolutely love that mic, and while I like multi (usually 2) mic recording, the 57 is a fantastic, and incredibly affordable, proven to be effective solution.
     
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    No such as "best mic" really. Different combinations will give you different results. I'm talking about: Guitar, amp, cab, microphone, microphone pre-amp, A/D converters etc.

    The 57 does a really good job for a lot of things and is very cheap - extremely durable. Not the kind of mic I would use for a Gretch guitar through a Vox AC30.

    The Royer R-121 ribbon microphone is excellent for guitar cabs. Particularly the 48V version which saves all the impedance matching business and has higher gain.

    I Recommend you to try one the royer.

    Gomez
     
  14. Andy Sneap

    Andy Sneap Metal Guru

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    I have to disagree on the Royer, I really gave it a good shot but the good ol 57 never left the room.
     
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    Nitronium Blood UM BOARDS' JESTER

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    Didn't you leave the creator of the Royer ribbon mic confused or something when you told him that his stuff was not so great? :D
     
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    How about the Coles 3048? I haven't used it but I want to...
     
  17. Matt Crooks

    Matt Crooks www.fools-game.com

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    What pre did you use with it? I really like the sound of the Royer when I use it with the Avalon preamp, but with the Neve it sounds flat and lifeless.

    Check out Division's track "Paradise Lost", on their mysapce page. I did the recording and the guitars are Royer 122 with the Avalon 2022 preamp. The other tracks on their myspace page I did with a 57 and a 421 through a Neve pre: http://www.myspace.com/divisionusa
     
  18. Matt Smith

    Matt Smith THEOCRACY

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    I had a Royer for awhile but sold it. I liked the smoothness but it was so dark I always had to EQ it quite a bit. Finally I realized there's no point in keeping a $1K mic around that I constantly have to EQ to sound more like an $89 mic. ;)

    In all fairness though, I'm sure my room had a lot to do with it since the
    Royer is figure-8. Those of us with less-than-perfect spaces benefit more from the rejection of a 57-type mic...at least in my experience. I used it with a Great River MP-2NV.
     
  19. Matt Crooks

    Matt Crooks www.fools-game.com

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    Matt S - did you have the 121 or 122? The Great River is based on a Neve design, and is probably a bit "darker" sounding preamp, with which the Royers do not work well, IMO.
     
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    Too bad I didnt read this thread before i went to visit Pelle this weekend when we gigged i västerås. However, it seems tyo be the same setup there as I used when we recorded The Arrival up there.

    As I remember it it's an ancient Sennheiser microphone and he's got a couple of them for guitar and bass tracking.
    Could be wrong though since it's been a couple of years since i was there.

    He's rescently started using 5150's along with his Savage btw... We're talking killer guitartone there!

     

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